Oddworld Questions & Answers VII

[Bullet Magnet]

You can't use "wild-type strain" to infer "fleeches are meeches."

[Zerox]

The only Fleeches in Abe's Exoddus are Vykker-made Fleeches. I said that wild Fleeches are young Meeches. Maybe Vykker-made Fleeches were an attempt to bring back Meeches for Meech Munchies, but it didn't work.

Tell me, have you ever even seen a Meech?

[MeechShrykull1029]

Yes, in the Oddworld Library, and the Meech Munchies poster.

[Bullet Magnet]

Something occured to me. I know there is more information around than a lot of people readily gather, but how much do we think of the idea that Squeek is a symbiote, ultimately of Munch? It's out there, but a few comments and interviews gave me that inkling.

[Zerox]

Sorry, BM, the term 'symbiote' only seems to mean Spiderman in my head at the moment...but I doubt that Squeek would be a child of Munch, or anything hatched from that can. Two Gabbits seems unlikely, plus I wouldn't have thought 'Squeek' is a name to suit a Gabbit.

Yes, in the Oddworld Library, and the Meech Munchies poster.

You do realise it has absolutely not the slightest resemblance to a Fleech? Thought that kinda made it obvious they're entirely separate animals. I don't think purely a name is going to link them that closely.

[Wings of Fire]

Sorry, BM, the term 'symbiote' only seems to mean Spiderman in my head at the moment...but I doubt that Squeek would be a child of Munch, or anything hatched from that can. Two Gabbits seems unlikely, plus I wouldn't have thought 'Squeek' is a name to suit a Gabbit.

A symbiote is a creature that uses another to survive but in turn helps that other creature, a good example of this is those birds (Can't recall the names) that eat leeches and things out of a crocodiles mouth, the bird gets food and shelter and the croc gets a clean mouth.

I've always thought Oddworld needs a good symbiote, it has an industrialist parasite (The Gloktigi) so two natives with a symbiotic relationship seems an obvious step, but which interviews are you talking about BM?

[Bullet Magnet]

Actually, most of our very first character designs were based on symbiosis relationships, but they were too hard for us to achieve in gameplay in the 32 bit era. We have a lot of creatures like this in our design library, some of them are extremely cool. I’m sure they’ll start showing up in some of the games coming right after Munch. In the long run, symbiosis creatures are important to the Oddworld Quintology. Squeek’s Oddysee (Quintology #3) is dependent upon it.

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Oh, and Munch is the only character whose significance in Squeek’s Oddysee we actually know.

Perhaps I should ask more about that before publishing ideas...

[Wil]

I don’t know about any mutualistic relationship between Gabbits and members of Squeek’s species, although I love the idea. Since Gabbits have neared extinction, this would mean Squeek’s species is also suffering; but then it’s not Squeek himself whose been mentioned as being so symbiotic. Gabbits already have an interesting relationship with Glukkons, what with their lungs being perfect replacements being the only two species capable of contracting the Gorman Disenza virus (which is the significance to which I was referring in what you quoted, BM).

Personally, I always thought Squeek would be the character who is affected by secretive testing on his population, an idea mentioned by Lorne and Sherry but not yet seen in the games. Given recent information, however, and I’m given to believe that this was actually the cause of the deaths of the Mudokon Queens.

[MeechShrykull1029]

Sorry, BM, the term 'symbiote' only seems to mean Spiderman in my head at the moment...but I doubt that Squeek would be a child of Munch, or anything hatched from that can. Two Gabbits seems unlikely, plus I wouldn't have thought 'Squeek' is a name to suit a Gabbit.



You do realise it has absolutely not the slightest resemblance to a Fleech? Thought that kinda made it obvious they're entirely separate animals. I don't think purely a name is going to link them that closely.

Insects don't look like their larvae.

[Wings of Fire]

Ok, I know the name of the game is Oddworld, but I still refuse to believe that a Fleech would lose a whole mouth after changing form (And there is no such evidence to say that a Fleech would ever change anyway)

My argument may very well be an appeal to ignorance but yours patently doesn't make anything other than lexical sense.

[Wil]

They normally share the same number of legs and mouths, though.

[Nate]

Except for caterpillars and butterflies...

the only two species capable of contracting the Gorman Disenza virus

*ahem*

GD is a virus that infects the rich and powerful. The Glukkons are far from the most powerful race on Oddworld.

[Psychonaut]

Could this be Sam?

[Bullet Magnet]

GD is a virus that infects the rich and powerful. The Glukkons are far from the most powerful race on Oddworld.

I was under the impression that we were going to keep at least some of this stuff quiet.

Could this be Sam?

The models on the left are Maggie. Those on the right are Sam. They may not look like that in their final incarnations, but that is who they are.

Save this stuff for the Q&A thread.

[Wil]

Then you should have used the word ‘only’ more carefully when you were describing it to me.

Possibly we were, BM, but we got into outdoing each other before we worked out exactly what and for how long.

[MeechShrykull1029]

They normally share the same number of legs and mouths, though.

Not the same number of legs.

[Zerox]

Not the same number of legs.

Actually, larval species do tend to share the same number of legs. Most legs on a caterpillar are 'false' fleshy legs, but the 6 'real' legs are hard, at the front of the body.

I don't think a Meech's and a Fleech's anatomy really mix that much.

[MeechShrykull1029]

Elum's head in Monsaic Lines is actually from the Abe's Oddysee Click Adventure.

[Zerox]

Elum's head in Monsaic Lines is actually from the Abe's Oddysee Click Adventure.

...whut?

[MeechShrykull1029]

Abe's Oddysee Click Adventure is a small online game that is similar to Abe's Oddysee. Instead of controlling Abe, you click on something on the screen, and a\Abe does something related to that thing.

[Fuzzle Guy]

Well this is news. I don't remember hearing anything of this before. What is the link?

Edit: Thanks to Wings of Fire for providing me with a link. I am proud to say that I am wooping his arse, as I have made it past the first level, and he can't even make it past the first screen.

[Wings of Fire]

I typed 'Abe's Oddysee Click Adventure' into Google and got this.

It seriously fails but I see the Elum head.

[OddYouko]

I can't even get past the first daRn screen.

What all could you do if Munch could turn into that big muscley Gabbit thing?
I mean like bash Sligs or something?

[Xavier]

The Elum head doesn't come from that game... the guy who made the game only took the screens from oddworld.com

[Zerox]

That's what I'd been thinking, and I haven't even clicked on it yet, and I'm not going to bother clicking on it.

Didn't think it seemed like it was actual official stuff.

[Fuzzle Guy]

Didn't think it seemed like it was actual official stuff.

How right you are. Generally official games don't have Munch's voice coming out of Abe.

[OddYouko]

Ok my twin's been bugging me with this question for a while now.
At the end of Stranger's Wrath when everyone's at the river with the dying guy what does he mean when he says "Is the water free?"

I don't have the game but I just gotta know. =/

[Wings of Fire]

The dam was blocking the water's natural course. Steefs are protectors of the Mongo River and the Olden Steef wanted to know whether Stranger and the Grubbs managed to 'free' the river he had been protecting all his life.

[GlukkonGluk]

Here's a question: I'm sure I read somewhere that some of the cancelled OW games were in fact made by OW fans, although lacking the quality. Is this true?

[Fuzzle Guy]

Yes, it is true. I am currently making a fan game of Munch's Exoddus, therefore, it's true