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Children may well experience sexual arousal and be capable of sexual stimulation. But until they reach puberty and hormones have fully done their work, they do not understand, cannot understand, and will not understand, no matter how labouriously it is explained, the concept of sexual desire.
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Again that's a pretty big assumption. If they are capable of sexual arousal would they not also be capable of understanding sexual desire if they were explained what the arousal means? For that matter, isn't sexual arousal and desire basically the same thing in this context?
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for the record BDSM and swingers are considered fine by most, all to do with consenting adults. paedophilia and zoophilia doesn't involve consenting adults
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You are right, that wasn't the most appropriate collection of examples. Though I do have an interesting observation when asking people what they think about zoophilia. Roughly half the people will tell you it's not their cup of tea, but have no objection as long as the animal isn't being hurt/enjoying itself. The other half will tell you it's flat out disgusting and animal abuse. The original point I was trying to make being that there is no uniform opinion on either subject (pedo or zoo). The law might make both illegal, but many different people have many different opinions.
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a sexual attraction to children is wrong, end of story. it goes against nature
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Yet it is nature that creates the sexual attraction to begin with. So that creates somewhat of a problem with your theory. One could wonder if there is some sort of evolutionary reason for pedophilia to emerge or if it may not be as unnatural as people seem to believe. I think there are plenty of animals that show signs of sexual interest long before they are sexually mature.
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anyone who willingly labels themselves a paedophile is a fucking idiot
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No-one willingly labels themselves. But I'm sure there comes a point in a pedo's life where he can't ignore the facts anymore. There's no point in pretending to be something your not (or pretending to not be something you are). That doesn't mean they go public with that information, just that they have decided to come to terms with their situation.
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No, it’s the adults fault for manipulating and brainwashing them into thinking it was okay to begin with.
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Regardless of how the relationship between the two developed (natural, with 'consent' or by manipulation), what if the child genuinely enjoyed the interaction, continued to enjoy the interaction for as long as it lasted and had happy memories of the interaction years down the line? Would you believe that insisting he/she was abused and raped is a good thing? You're essentially taking a good memory and turning it into a nightmare just because you believe that's how it happened.
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I apologize if I said anything that was standoffish and aggressive. But you should know that this particular subject is going to incite some negative responses as with any controversial topic. I understand a lot of the points you made in this topic and I can see why you would have your point of view the way it is. I don’t agree with it one bit, but I understand.
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It's good to discuss controversial topics every now and again even if the majority of people are completely against it. The discussion allows for some insights people might otherwise not have on their own. I'm a big believer in thinking for yourself and having your own opinion instead of blindly assuming that the opinion of the masses must be the right one. If my controversial topics and questions get you to think and consider things you didn't consider before then I've done my part.
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I hate this thread and I want it to go away.
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Out of sight, out of mind.
You know you could always just not open the thread?
