My Game...and stuff...

[Un-Amused]

Ok...so i was bored...and i thort i mite post this thing on my game im gonna make/sell to the games companies...rite...i have the story all set out...i jus' need the basic outline 4 gameplay!! Wich is y im posting it...its either make it into a game or into a book/film. Rite...so...the 1st game is...

About Hell and stuff. The opening FMV starts off with a gang of high-class criminals in a old warehouse exchanging Cocaine. However...many of the neighbouring police stations have been informed of this and thus are planning a raid. Since the gang are notorious for their killings in cold blood...the SWAT team gets involved and move in. Shouting the usual stuff like 'Get down' and 'Freeze' obviously...the gang being...well...them attack and shoot. It basically ends in a shootout were all the thugs take on the SWAT (And start to win) Cyrrius one of the characters runs out with a couple of his close gang-related friends and get held up by a SWAT member...fiercly beating him and then shooting him in his groin Cyrrius and co make their way up a fire escape to try and get away from the fighting below. However, the SWAT members partner saw him get shot and take heed, chasing Cyrrius down and planning to shoot him. Taking out his friends as they make their way up the fire escape she finally comes to a show down with Cyrrius. He shoots, injuring her...a big scene of dialog sets in and finally she shoots him in his stomach and kicks him over the edge of the building (Very high mite i add) As he goes down u see a load of red cloud envoloping his body. As his body hits the ground his Soul comes out (Wich looks like him only a dark red color) He laughs and stuff before Hell opens up and devours him. He gets put were all the other demons are etc and meets his friends in the Labour area. Cyrrius then escapes from Hell with the help of the other 'inmates' and gets out into the big wild world, possessing a number of rich men Cyrrius and his group plan to break into Hell via a Ouija board...in which they do. Then its Christophés job to take them out wiv the help of the 4 horsemen...i cant b bothered 2 type n e more so if u want 2 kn0 n e more jus' say...thx.

[Abe's son]

what? i dont get why you posted this

[Un-Amused]

I sed...i was bored and needed help n e way with Gameplay ideas

[SeaRex]

Your game won't go over well with the FCC, or any other gov agency for that matter. But, hey! They did let GTA3 slip through. (Of course, then they recalled it and made it "less crude".)

[Un-Amused]

I expect it'd cause controversy through the Church. As Lucifer actually is Good and says how God 'Told lies about him' and stuff like that. He is also in a relationship with a Angel. Also there are Bible, Priest, Religious fanatics and Heaven puns/jokes/sarcastic comments etc

[Abe's son]

mabey their should be a plot twist ya know like aliens or that they were smugling genetic suplys discised as croncane and the police did'nt know it



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mean while back at the bad guys hq


boss:did the suplies get here yet?

thug:no sir,your men are being held up at a wear house

professer:WHAT!! i need those suplies now!

boss: *truns to professer* you'll get them when they get here


wada tink(frakly i think you'll think its kinda stupid

[SeaRex]

The real trouble you would have is actually finding someone who will make your game. Hell and Heaven is generally considered an "underground" kind of subject when it comes to video games.

EDIT: Aliens? WTF Abe's Son?

[Un-Amused]

The Heaven and Hell being a underground kinda thing...i know...peeps either find it boring or dont wanna talk about it incase they offend someone...its quite annoying really.

mabey their should be a plot twist ya know like aliens or that they were smugling genetic suplys discised as croncane and the police did'nt know it

There is a twist...and alth0 ur idea was quite good...it int for my game. The Twist is that Hell gets destroyed at the end of the game...very good FMV!

[Gluk Schmuck]

Originally posted by Un-Amused
I expect it'd cause controversy through the Church. As Lucifer actually is Good and says how God 'Told lies about him' and stuff like that. He is also in a relationship with a Angel. Also there are Bible, Priest, Religious fanatics and Heaven puns/jokes/sarcastic comments etc

*remembers that clip on Jackass with the person in the devil suit*

Teehee!


Anyway,

i was bored and needed help n e way with Gameplay ideas

Are you going to tell us anything about the gameplay in your game or do you want us to decide on your whole gameplay?

[Un-Amused]

That Jackass Devil suit one was quite funny...lol.

Erm...well...ill tell u more about the Game 1st...and then tell u a few ideas about the gameplay.

4 Horsemen. 4 Horsemen are basically 2 females and 2 males. Eriká (Pestilence), Bááhl (Death), Tobias (War) and Ámera (Famine). They are like the last resort in bringing the escaped Demons back to Hell (As there has been a few break outs before...resulting in devastating effects) The 1st creatures to be sent out are the 'Reapers' since Death went psychotic and followed the path of his sisters before hand (Who got banished to the Primal Hell) Lucifer decided to lock him away in a high security compound on the outskirts of damnation. Death is trapped in a glass box with guards watching over him 24/7 Death is weak and does not have any strength to escape...so in his place are the Reapers...the creatures that are responsible for Suicides and Murders. Sometimes like Death they delve into Insanity and thus attack the living...taking their soul before hand so all that is left is judgement. But on the warfront they are capable hunters...bringing the damned back to Hell. If they fail the shadowmen get sent...and then if they fail also...the Horsemen. Although they dont look like nights and dont ride horses. They are more human in form. Christophé is actually half Demon and half Angel. And you are in charge of hunting down Cyrrius and taking out the remaining threat. Thats part of the gameplay...then in the middle you fight Cyrrius and he possess you...Lucifer fearing that God will get involved and find out about his relationship with the Angel decides it would be best to kill Christophé and thus kill Cyrrius.

And thats the next part of the game...trying to avoid the Horsemen...soooo...Gameplay help...i cant have him going around jus killing peeps who r demons can i!? Also...if u want to know the end say...cos the ending is the BEST and most AMAZINGEST part!!

[MojoMan220]

There is an old game about hell that was called Hell, it did'nt sell very well. But I dout this concept would intrest casual gamers, as was the case with the old game Hell. Anyway, Legal trouble should be your biggest concern.

[Disgruntled Intern]

heh...it actually sounds pretty fun man..In all fairness, in Max Payne, you see and hear a mobster getting a hummer...heh and the spawn games revolved soley around heaven and hell....

[Doug]

Originally posted by MojoMan220
Legal trouble should be your biggest concern.

As laid out so far, legal trouble is of no concern. You can legally publish anything you want short of child pornography (at least, in the US). The FCC regulates the airwaves (radio/TV)/telephones/etc., not publishing. Publishing in the U.S. is not regulated. The problem is marketing -- if it's so violent or otherwise offensive to a sizeable segment of the population, not only have you limited your potential market but you have to put up with the negative publicity. If WalMart won't carry your game, now you've got a distribution problem.

I don't see how this is any more offensive than Diablo or Postal or Kingpin or Hitman or Dracula, the Resurrection or . . . need I go on? And jeepers, if you blow up Hell at the end, even the holy rollers will buy in.

I think it's in interesting idea, but if you have serious aspirations of publishing a game you'll need a sharply focused and fully developed sense of plot, gameplay, etc. in order to get through the door of a development house, or a bazillion dollars of your own money to finance development/publishing/etc. The other thing that you should be careful about is that if you've got a really good idea, if you share it publicly you run the risk that some cretin will steal it.

[MojoMan220]

This game could easily be banned from many states, with its use of cocaine dealing, killing of cops, gangs, and that sort. There would be large amounts of controversy. I highly dout a publisher would support a game of this intensedy(not even GTA3 is this bad) at least a respected one, sorry, no offense.

[Doug]

Originally posted by MojoMan220
This game could easily be banned from many states, with its use of cocaine dealing, killing of cops, gangs, and that sort. There would be large amounts of controversy. I highly dout a publisher would support a game of this intensedy(not even GTA3 is this bad) at least a respected one, sorry, no offense.

You can't ban published works in the United States -- it's unconstitutional. There are a few very narrow exceptions, none of which apply to this scenario. Other countries could ban it -- I know Australia banned GTA3 -- but the US or individual states in the US could not. States can pass laws to make it very difficult for kids to get their hands on it, but it they can't ban it outright.

Whether a publisher would touch it is a whole different story, and I agree if the violence is too graphic or gratuitous, a lot of publishers wouldn't. Distributors can also refuse to distribute it; stores can refuse to carry it; the offended masses can refuse to buy it. That's different. It's obviously a difference of opinion, but I'm having trouble seeing how this is any worse than GTA3 or any of several other games already on the market. This kind of subject matter is in the movies and on TV every day.

[Un-Amused]

Was gonna type sumat of relevance...but i cant...COS MY X-BEST MATE IS MY BEST MATE AGAIN...SO LA LA LA LA LAAA...LA LA LA etc etc...n e way...feel free 2 carry on bak on topic and stuff

[Gluk Schmuck]

Originally posted by Doug
1. Distributors can also refuse to distribute it; stores can refuse to carry it; the offended masses can refuse to buy it.

2. It's obviously a difference of opinion, but I'm having trouble seeing how this is any worse than GTA3 or any of several other games already on the market.

1. I recently read a feature in Edge about the massive power the large retail chains have over publishers. Poor publishers...

2. If the violence is directed at humans then the game will be contravercial.

3. They (being stupid people) thought GTA3 was a bad influence. Wait till the see State of Emergency! Now that sounds violent!
*hopes SoE is released on Xbox*
They'll probably complain that it encourages children to use dismembered limbs to hit people with!
*grins almost as much as when he gets a Plasma Bolt in W'O"*

[Un-Amused]

Right...well...im normal again now...no...wait i aint!! But i'll try and be. I'll tell you how it ends. The game ends with Cyrrius and his 'Crew' breaking into Hell via a newly discovered gateway. Attacking the guards who try and stop them they basically encourage all the Demons to escape and chaos takes over. The horsemen do their best to keep everything under control and so do the other guards patrolling the area. However Cyrrius gets by all of them (Being in possession of Christophé and all) and makes his way to Oblivion (A big mass of liquid used to store all the Demons who Lucifer wants to torture). Trying to cut a deal with Oblivion he tells him about freedom. Oblivion agrees to spare the other Demons lives...and then...as Cyrrius un-possess Chris he realises that he made a deal with a Demon...furious he goes berserk etc...Chris escapes and runs...as does Cyrrius...un-able to close his compound he escapes...devouring everything in his path he comes to Lucifer who holds him off as long as he can. Weakening, the horsemen help and Eriká goes to open the transporter. As Oblivion cannot be harmed by anything the horsemen are soon defeated as is all who oppose him. Dragging the weakened Lucifer Chris hinders himself...Lucifer tells him to go...Chris says no etc finally Lucifer pushes him away psychicly and holds Oblivion off as long as he can saying:

" The Catholics left Jesus to die for his men...why wont you bastard Demons gimme the same heroic Death!?"

Chris then runs to the portal...Cyrrius comes from the shadows...injures Lucifer some more so Oblivion can devour him and then runs to the portal...finally when Chris is about to jump in the Demon possess Chris once again...causing Oblivion to catch up with them and take them both in...destroying Hell...and Eriká is the only survivor. How joyful...

Then it goes on...as there is other games i plan to add...which dont follow up...there is the one with Fear and Suffering, the 2nd game to do with that, the one with Fate, the 2nd one to do with that and the 3rd...the 4th also and then it goes back to Hell again as Fate tries to get the 4 horsemen to bring about the apocolypse...there is looooaaaads. Which will cost looooaaads!!

By the time im 25 i think the Censors will b a bit more understanding and the consoles will b like...well...kick ass basically. Imagine the graphix...!!

[Danny]

To be honest, I reckon it would be more, well, more something (dramatic or something like that, or maybe just more good) if it was Baahl who were to survive, seeing as Death is the most persistent of the Horsemen... Also, judging by the names, it's Pestilence and Famine that are female and Death and War that are male - I'd recommend making Pestilence male, and one of the other two female...

Again, you ought to read "Good Omens" By Pratchett and Gaiman. You'd like War as well as Crowley - War would seem to suit the kind of horsemen you want in your game...

Anyway, I would help you design this, but you seem to have it more or less sorted...

[SeaRex]

*sigh*
I always wanted to play a game (well, at least when I'm really angry) where you could just be the Pale Rider. You know, just riding around in the modern world, lopping random Wal-Mart customer's heads off.
"Attention Wal Mart shoppers... bow at my feet! Foolish mortals!"
*sigh*
Someday....

[Un-Amused]

Baahl who were to survive, seeing as Death is the most persistent of the Horsemen...

Well he comes back into toward the end of the game. Cos Fate and Sinn open the gateway...get the horsemen who are weakend...Eriká saves them...and hides them. Fate sends some of his minions back into Hell and thats were they find Death all locked up and stuff...so they bring him out and he hunts down the remaining horsemen...taking their souls and sacrificing them so the darkside can come to the mortal realm (And Wars this Samurai armour with four swords and stuff...scary stuff...lol) And Pestilence is this creature with a white featureless mask...with a load of poisoness snakes as a face, Famine is like a big cockroach who can break herself down into loads of ickle bugs and Death is basically this big black powerful creature. But i wanted some continuity towards the climax of all the games...where all the horsemen open up their dimensions etc...and im borrowing 'Good Omens' today...I also got plans for the 'Legion' Demons. Who take their victims soul and become human for their remainder of life...mostly becoming Lawyers and Judges and Journalists...anything were they are in power. (Journalists are as they are the Media and without the Media we're practicaly blind and deaf)

[Danny]

When I said Death, I meant Baahl... What I meant was, if one of the four horsemen is to survive, it should be Baahl, the Death one. It was just a suggestion, though, and it's not as if it matters, anyway...

[Un-Amused]

It was just a suggestion, though, and it's not as if it matters, anyway...

No...Daniel...it does...