troy davis death penalty -

scrabface · #31 09-21-2011, 02:31 PM

normally I am not impressed by a news story about a single fate. news love to tell such stories, because it seems more real than numbers of war-victims or the like.

but this time, it's different. murder is the highest possible sin in society, so murder the murderer. I know exactly that troy davis will be killed in about half an hour and there's nothing I can do.

moxco · #32 09-21-2011, 04:13 PM

How is capital punishment still justified?

***Wil*** · #33 09-22-2011, 12:57 AM

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normally I am not impressed by a news story about a single fate. news love to tell such stories, because it seems more real than numbers of war-victims or the like.

but this time, it's different. murder is the highest possible sin in society, so murder the murderer. I know exactly that troy davis will be killed in about half an hour and there's nothing I can do.

But then who murders the murderer's murderer?

Dixanadu · #34 09-22-2011, 02:42 AM

OFF WITH HIS HEAD

***Nate*** · #35 09-22-2011, 02:46 AM

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But then who murders the murderer's murderer?

It's not murder if it's allowed by law. 'Murder' is a legal concept rather than a physical one.

MeechMunchie · #36 09-22-2011, 08:12 AM

That's why soldiers aren't all on death row.

Which is why I believe capital punishment is inherently flawed.

It's not justice if you're not treating everybody the same.

STM · #37 09-22-2011, 09:02 AM

What would you replace it with? I don't know myself? Lock someone up in a tiny dark room for sixty years maybe, that's gotta be worse than death.

Bullet Magnet · #38 09-22-2011, 09:39 AM

They went and did it. It's good to know that ancient relics of a primitive, barbarous time, the worst of humanity this hemisphere has to offer, is not yet extinct. That would be a tragedy.

Dipstikk · #39 09-22-2011, 11:12 AM

An innocent man has been killed for a crime he did not commit. I hate the world.

STM · #40 09-22-2011, 01:31 PM

I heard it on the radio. Fuck the judiciary systems that can't get this shit right. Even the original prosecutors dropped their claims. Not the Pope, not the previous president, could save the poor man. I hope the judge that sent him to death burns in Hell for millennia to come.

MeechMunchie · #41 09-22-2011, 02:36 PM

Excommunicate the bastard.

***Nate*** · #42 09-22-2011, 03:32 PM

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I heard it on the radio. Fuck the judiciary systems that can't get this shit right. Even the original prosecutors dropped their claims. Not the Pope, not the previous president, could save the poor man. I hope the judge that sent him to death burns in Hell for millennia to come.

Don't blame the judges here. They have to follow the letter of the law, same as everyone else. Blame the legislators who are still letting this sort of thing happen.

Also the cops who allegedly pressured the original witnesses in to giving testimony against him.

jumper · #43 09-22-2011, 10:12 PM

Perhaps some blame should go to the actual murderer, whoever s/he was?

Bullet Magnet · #44 09-23-2011, 01:51 PM

Someone admitted to it prior to the execution.

Dixanadu · #45 09-23-2011, 05:54 PM

Apparently, before he was executed, he looked to the victim's family and protested his innocence.

After learning about the crime, I feel sick to my stomach.

Mac Sirloin · #46 09-27-2011, 02:54 PM

That poor, poor man.

moxco · #47 09-28-2011, 04:46 PM

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Perhaps some blame should go to the actual murderer, whoever s/he was?

You can't blame the exocutioner. Reminds me of this...

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George is a recently-qualified chemist with a young family to support. He finds it difficult to get a job due to a weak constitution. An older chemist friend tells George that he can get him a well-paid job in a chemical and biological weapons lab. George is not too keen. A child of the sixties, he is opposed to the creation and stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction. The older colleague sympathises and agrees with his view, but notes that the job is not going to go away. If George doesn’t take it, some other chemist who is a zealous advocate of such weapons will get it. This will invariably result in the speedier development of better, more deadly weapons. What should George do?.

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The choice is this: Don't take the job, fail to support family, weapons are built anyway. Or Take the job, support family and weapons are built. In this scenario, taking the job has more a more positive outcome.

However, personally I find it abhorrent that one of the most well-paid applications of science is this horrendous abuse of it. I, and no doubt George, could not look at myself in a mirror having taken this job, would feel like shit and sink deep into depression. That alone would probably be enough to tear our family apart, and is a good reason not to take it.

Those posts were by WoF and BM respectively.

Why are we not allowed to quote old threads?

Wings of Fire · #48 09-28-2011, 05:32 PM

Deontology > Consequentialism.

But I don't get the relevance?

***Nate*** · #49 09-28-2011, 11:51 PM

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Why are we not allowed to quote old threads?

Probably because quoting takes you to the 'Reply to Thread' page and you can't reply to old threads.

MeechMunchie · #50 09-29-2011, 06:10 AM

Try multiquoting?