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enchilado · #91 07-14-2011, 05:21 AM

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There's more of a an argument that these creatures can better enjoy a longer life.

I don't understand how greater intelligence allows for greater happiness.

EDIT: oh, I think I (kind of) misread. You're saying that more intelligent creatures will better appreciate having a long life, not that they'll necessarily be happier?

Well, I suppose they might do. But that wouldn't be much of a reason to me (if I ate meat) to eat cows but not squids.

moxco · #92 07-14-2011, 05:35 AM

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You might as well ask why we should kill bacteria when we wipe down table surfaces, a bacterium is alive and we are thoughtlessly massacring millions upon millions of them just so we can eat without the chance of getting ill. Despicable.

Bacteria are without brains; they have no opinion on their own existence. Did you not think of that?

STM · #93 07-14-2011, 05:38 AM

Fair enough Enchilado.

@MoxCo - but by your logic all creatures should be treated the same, you are the one that suggested intelligence doesn't factor into which animals we kill. And besides, the nucleus functions as a brain carrying out all the necessary functions. Certainly it is developed enough for the bacteria to become the most thriving of any living creature on the planet.

OddjobAbe · #94 07-14-2011, 05:42 AM

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@MoxCo - but by your logic all creatures should be treated the same, you are the one that suggested intelligence doesn't factor into which animals we kill

By his logic, sentience factors into which animals we kill.

STM · #95 07-14-2011, 05:58 AM

Okay then, you never stomped a spider underfoot? Or put down slug pellets to stop them eating your cabbage?

enchilado · #96 07-14-2011, 07:07 AM

Before we continue, I would like to ask what point you are trying to make.

Bullet Magnet · #97 07-14-2011, 07:21 AM

Neither spiders nor slugs are sentient. They're pretty much biological automatons, as are the cells they'e made of.

STM · #98 07-14-2011, 07:31 AM

Actually, sentience can be declassified so low as undifferentiated conciousness, i.e. when a spider catches it's prey with webs or when it retreats from humans, that is sentience. Slugs, perhaps it's debatable but not spiders.

Bullet Magnet · #99 07-14-2011, 07:36 AM

I once built a robot that could run from humans. Well, drive. Roll?

The definition I know is being able to experience, being aware of one's own existence and feelings. The ability to suffer is a watershed indicator.

STM · #**100** 07-14-2011, 07:46 AM

Isn't being aware of yourself sapience? Your robot didn't understand why it needed to escape a human, that would be comparing the spider to a wind up car for example would it not?

ziggy · #**101** 07-14-2011, 07:47 AM

In the future we should just make a microchip to put in everyone's brain that makes you euphoric all the time. Then life will be awesome.

STM · #**102** 07-14-2011, 07:53 AM

Just smoke drow.

ziggy · #**103** 07-14-2011, 07:55 AM

But, I don't smoke?

Dixanadu · #**104** 07-14-2011, 08:32 AM

Sniff lines, then.

Sekto Springs · #**105** 07-14-2011, 09:01 AM

Off the ass of a Brazilian hooker. Now that's life.

Ridg3 · #**106** 07-14-2011, 01:37 PM

Life? I like it, extremely much so at that. I'm pretty much a happy go lucky guy and Dix can, hopefully, confirm this. And as much as I enjoy life I'm looking forward to death.

Dixanadu · #**107** 07-14-2011, 01:46 PM

*confirms*

You happy bastard.

metroixer · #**108** 07-14-2011, 06:34 PM

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Life? I like it, extremely much so at that. I'm pretty much a happy go lucky guy and Dix can, hopefully, confirm this. And as much as I enjoy life I'm looking forward to death.

strange avatar choice

Goresplatter · #**109** 07-14-2011, 07:41 PM

My father once told me;

"Life's shit, and then you die."

Stirring stuff.

Wings of Fire · #**110** 07-14-2011, 07:43 PM

Your father was misquoting, the actual line is 'Life's a bitch and then you die.'

DarkHoodness · #**111** 07-14-2011, 07:44 PM

"Life's a bitch, and so am I" is a popular variant.

... I need sleep.

hedjeroo · #**112** 07-14-2011, 08:00 PM

Must not quote Ronan Keating.

Now that that urge is resisted, life can suck majorly but hey, pain is how we know we're alive.

Life is pretty rockin'. Especially right now. I'm just about getting ready to move into a new house, I've been with an amazing guy for over 2 months now, I'm ready to head into the real world and finally get out of my idealist's bubble...

Yeah the university thing fell apart and I may not go back, yeah I'm having to try and find a job so I can pay my half of the rent, and yeah I'm a nervous wreck when it comes to being in the real world...

But it's totally worth it.

***Nate*** · #**113** 07-14-2011, 10:25 PM

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Your father was misquoting, the actual line is 'Life's a bitch and then you die.'

Or "Life's a bitch and then you marry one"

Goresplatter · #**114** 07-15-2011, 03:43 AM

I had a feeling it was a variation of some quote.

Besides that, at the moment I'm feeling pretty good with my lot. Got into university and loving it, wonderful girlfriend, wonderful friends, a car, and a source of income. Can't really complain about anything.

Phylum · #**115** 07-15-2011, 04:43 AM

Why are we alive?

I personally have no clue. I find the more I think about it the more I realise that I have no idea about how anything works.

moxco · #**116** 07-15-2011, 06:13 AM

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26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat: 30 and to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

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Dixanadu · #**117** 07-15-2011, 08:44 AM

Yeah, God made everything and thought it was 'very good'.

Nonchalant fucker.

Disgruntled Intern · #**118** 07-15-2011, 10:26 AM

God needed someone like Gordon Ramsay to call him a cunt and make fun of him for being content with mediocrity.

Oddey · #**119** 07-15-2011, 10:59 AM

Sometimes I wonder if it is worth it to be alive. Then I think about what it would be like to not be alive. Then I decide to stay alive.

Other times, I think of good things in life, and I smile, then think life is good. When I think of the bad things, I eventually think of good things, and I think life is good for me even with the bad things, but I can never be too sure if I can say the same for everyone else.

Life is more good than bad in my opinion.

Sekto Springs · #**120** 07-15-2011, 12:44 PM

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God needed someone like Gordon Ramsay to call him a cunt and make fun of him for being content with mediocrity.

This. Fucking this.