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11-21-2008, 06:48 PM
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Bioshock influenced by Oddworld?

But I just bought Bioshock and I'm seeing some major Oddworld influences. Particularly the advertisements and font type.
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11-21-2008, 07:43 PM
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I think they just portray a similar dystopian industrial atmosphere.
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11-22-2008, 08:20 AM
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I think the reason that you think that is the way the makers of Bioshock showed such an intense attention to detail in the creation of a living, breathing world. Oddworld tends to do the same. Other than that though, I don't see much comparison.
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11-24-2008, 09:33 AM
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Other than that though, I don't see much comparison.
right, i can't see any comparison too. some say, they can see a link between bioshock and system shock 2, but whatever^^.
i read somewhere, that bioshock often quotes ayn rand's atlas atlas shrugged.
by the way; her second novel the fountainhead is Charles Freck's favourite book. (A Scanner Darkly)
[Freck turns on the radio]
Freck Suicide Narrator: Charles Freck, becoming progressively more and more depressed by what was happening around him, decided, finally, to off himself. There was no problem in the circles where he hung out in putting an end to yourself. You just bought a large quantity of downers and took them with some cheap wine. The planning part had to do with the artifacts he wanted found on him by later archeologists. He had spent several days deciding, much longer than he had spent deciding to kill himself. He would be found lying on his back, on his bed, with a copy of Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead and an unfinished letter to Exxon, protesting the cancellation of his gas credit card. That way, he would indite the system, and achieve something by his death, over and above what the death itself achieved. At the last moment, he changed his mind on a decisive issue and decided to drink the pills with a connoisseur wine, instead of Ripple or Thunderbird. So he set off on one last drive, over to Tiny's Liquors, which specialized in fine wines, and bought a bottle of 2001 Azalea Springs Merlot, which set him back almost seventy dollars. Back home again, he uncorked the wine, let it breathe, drank a few glasses of it, tried to think of something meaningful but could not, and then, with a glass of Merlot, gulped down all the pills at once. However, he had been burned. Instead of quietly suffocating, Charles Freck began to hallucinate. The next thing he knew, a creature from between dimensions was standing beside his bed, looking down at him disapprovingly.
Freck: You gonna read me my sins?
[Creature nods]
Freck: Eh, it's gonna take a hundred thousand hours.
Creature: Your sins will be read to you ceaselessly, in shifts, throughout eternity. The list will never end.
Creature: [starts reading] "The Sins of Freck"
Freck Suicide Narrator: Charles Freck wished he could take back the last half hour of his life.
Creature: [Creature continues to read] "... theft of fingernail clippers...” "... you did knowingly and with malice...” "... punched your baby sister, Evelyn...” "... December, theft of Christmas presents...” "... one billion lies...”
Freck Suicide Narrator: One thousand years later, they had reached the sixth grade, the year he had discovered masturbation.
Charles Freck thought: "At least I got a good wine."
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I am in disagreement with you. she is. but anyway, everyone should discover her by his own. may it be rancor or surrender.
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Objectivism is quite possibly the silliest, most offensive, and self defeating philosophy ever created. Also, she is a strong, opinionated woman who is of the opinion that woman cannot be strong or opinionated and should not be in charge of anything. Not even their own lives. A walking contradiction.
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Objectivism is quite possibly the silliest, most offensive, and self defeating philosophy ever created. Also, she is a strong, opinionated woman who is of the opinion that woman cannot be strong or opinionated and should not be in charge of anything. Not even their own lives. A walking contradiction.
hm, sorry i wont be able to discuss such a complex topic with you, because of my linguistic barrier. ( < -- this sentence's surely not right ^^)

but i still can't see any reason for NOT reading ayn rand. to form an opinion implies dealing with it. just imagine Bioshock without all those ideas; the atmosphere wouldn't exist without ayn rand. that is a fact.
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Well, let me say this. I don't recommend reading her work. There are far better authors.
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Well, let me say this. I don't recommend reading her work. There are far better authors.
well thats for sure^^
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I think I noticed it, but then again, whilst playing the orange box, I had a feeling it was too influenced by oddworld, altough I haven't played it in a while so I can't remember how.
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I expect is was once you escaped into the wilderness. I've always said, Valve could realise a great Oddworld game.

The architecture of Rapture has the same real-world origins as that of FeeCo.
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FTW??!!!
I will make a game called OddShock in 3111!
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I expect is was once you escaped into the wilderness. I've always said, Valve could realise a great Oddworld game.

The architecture of Rapture has the same real-world origins as that of FeeCo.
An Oddworld game using Valve's technology heh?
like Source?

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The Source engine is really fantastic. I’d love to see an Oddworld game using it.
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Ayn Rand is a demon on wheels. Do not read her. She isn't worth your consideration.
Got to this late. Praise.

I, as of late, have become increasingly dissatisfied with left-wing economics and have shifted to a more libertarian world view. Not that I'm going to vote any differently, but I have started to take responsibility for my own financial stupidity.

Still, Ayn Rand is, disillusioned. I think Kevin Levine was trying to show that through Bioshock. I also think Lorne was doing something similar. Not just the enviromental stuff. Really subtle things.
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