9/11 Cover-up...*Omen music*

Jacob · #1 09-12-2002, 10:33 AM

Yes. According to the papers and substantial evidence what happened to the 3rd Plane (Which crashed before it reached anywhere) was covered up. It was said people brought it down, but evidence shows that the US shot it down and are now trying to cover it up. Do you believe this is right? I personally think the FBI should come clean and just say whether they shot it down or not...What do you think? I personally think its like the X-Files thing and very exciting (Well, until i get drunk and have some other revelations to tell.)

paramiteabe · #2 09-12-2002, 12:00 PM

There are many things the Government is not telling us and I think it is good for the nation because think of the panic or histeria. Weather they shot flight 93 down or it crashed by the passengers fighting for their lives is remained to be seen. But if the Air force shot them down then they would have every right to do so because of the surcomstances at the time. Either way the passengers of flight 93 were doomed. It was headed for the White House but that was prevented. Think of what would of happened if the White House was struck. Not only the WTC and the Pentagon But the White House. And think of what could of happen if the presidant was in the White House at the time.

There are choices in life that we must make and some can be as difficalt as September 11th. I am sure the idea of shooting a civilian air craft down was a very hard thing to decide. But it was the only desperate thing to do. If not taken then the disaster of September 11 2001 would have been worse.

TheKhanzumer · #3 09-12-2002, 01:19 PM

If they FBI came out and said they didn't shoot the plane the conspirators would still believe the same. So what would be the point?

Jacob · #4 09-12-2002, 01:42 PM

The FBI have said they hadn't shot it. Although, a white military aircraft was spotted leaving the scene, debris from the plane was found miles away and the plane was spotted plumeting in a ball of flame. Its not the fact that it was shot down, but the fact that the US officials are lying about it, even going to the extent of 'gagging' a witness whom saw such a thing. I dont think its right, if they did they should admit it...not cover it up. Although, that may lead to such questions as:

Why shoot it down at all when the passengers took control?

or

Why doesn't Barney eat the children he plays with?

SeaRex · #5 09-12-2002, 07:59 PM

I can believe it. All of those "Flight 93: A Tale of Heroism" stories were getting a bit too frequent...

Majic · #6 09-12-2002, 10:58 PM

Yet another reason why America sucks. I hope Bush was involved. I'd like any reason to get him out of presidency.

MojoMan220 · #7 09-12-2002, 11:36 PM

If the White House was hit by the plane, the president would not have been killed, he was at a school at the time.

In reply to paramiteabe's thought...

paramiteabe · #8 09-13-2002, 03:01 AM

Well I know he was at the school but I was just giveing an example of such a situation like if he were at the White House and was killed.

***Alcar*** · #9 09-13-2002, 03:34 AM

The current US government, is well... corrupt.

If the planes had hit the White House, I probably wouldn't care that much for George Bush.

Every good US president was assinated. Bill Clinton is the only exception.

I do feel much sympathy towards the 9/11 deaths, it should never of happened. It's sad that Osama Bin Laden had to do this to get revenge on the US for what it did to them not to long ago.

Alcar...

paramiteabe · #10 09-13-2002, 11:18 AM

Osama Bin Laden is no Humen being. He is evil at heart and he doesent care about life. I have no sympathy for the man! And I hope he burns in hell for his deed! He brings bad views over the Muslem belief that some people now show hatred towards them! It sickens me!

I for one think our government has some what handled this situation fairly good in the past year. We have 16 of his 25 terrorist operatives. I think thats pretty good but the war is far from over.

***Alcar*** · #11 09-13-2002, 11:29 AM

Osama Bin Laden is only doing what he feels right.

It's the same situation with the US Government they reckon they are doing the right thing too.

Neither one is right though.

Alcar...

paramiteabe · #12 09-13-2002, 11:51 AM

Explain how neither one is right.

We are doing this for the good of the world not just for us for everyone. You and everyone else is at risk of getting attacked. We the Americans have waken up and realised that there are bad people in this world. So now we as the world need to rid the world of this or there will be more deaths and more September 11ths to deal with. And it might not be America next time it might be someplace else. How would you feel then? Will you say they are doing what they feel is right? I think Bin Laden knows he is wrong but he loves it. Thats my impression. His pathetic smerk on his face says it all. Did you not see the videos showing them laughing at the attacks of September 11th? He knows he is wrong and he loves it. He is nothing more than a murder.

I believe war is not the answer but when it threatens our lives and way of liveing then the hell with those who have caused it in the first place. This is nothing like the past wars. This is different you don't see the youth marching up on Washington protesting the war on Terror like Vietnam. And in that war the youth had every right to do so. This is different.

Jacob · #13 09-13-2002, 02:17 PM

Osama Bin Laden is getting revenge for how the US treat his people. So what if he smirked? I would smirk if my plan to hurt an enemy worked. People called Hitler evil and all he was doing was trying to give the down trodden Germans a chance. Sure, the way he did it was evil...but his intentions were relativly good. Osama Bin Laden is the same. I do dislike him (Mainly because his clothes are from Oxfam.) but he is trying to help his people and Bush going around blowing up civi houses isn't going to put his point across is it? Its going to make the US look even worse.
I personally am relativly excited of the prospect of War...dont ask why, i just am. But we really shouldn't need to do so. And Bin Laden wont be attacking other countries because he only dislikes the Americans, Saddam will be the one attacking other countries.

And by the by, who's wrong more? The person who reacts wrongly or the person who acts wrongly to start it off?

Majic · #14 09-13-2002, 03:29 PM

PA, I personaly think your a bit crazy. Osamo did what he thought was right. We don't even know if hes still alive. Why don't you try looking from his side ever, oyu'll actualy see that the plan was quite a bit of brilliance on his part. But come on, you have to admit that our government is crap. I don't think your handling this any better than Bush. Thats not a compliment.

The US can't handle this problem for once. We're trying to insure the safety of the world and crap, thats just stupid. We're not an all mighty united nation, we're just another country that thinks its the greatest place ever, but really isn't.

Why don't you also wake up to the other problems in the US. GO and see what our government isn't helping, we have US areas just as bad as the Afgahnistan peoples. If we're so united and working together, the poorer minorities in the US must be forgotten about and shoved aside. Which they are.

paramiteabe · #15 09-13-2002, 04:56 PM

Then if thats the case then this whole world we live in is a piece of SH**! isn't it?

My views on Osama Bin Laden won't change just because I don't see his point of view. He killed innocient lives weather it was American or Jew or Spanish or German or English etc. The point is he was wrong and he is a murdurer and good will provail period! I find his planes cowardly absurd! And yes our government is messed up but I believe that Bush has made it better. What would you rather have as Presidant Al Gore? Good God help us all! You know America alweys is helping other poor countries. It's other countries who don't want it. And they give us nothing but peer HATERED because they are jealous in how we live.

Majic · #16 09-13-2002, 05:02 PM

I'd rather have somebody reasponsible and smart be president... *thinks* Like General Drippik was.

Anyways PA, the world is very fecked up. You think America is prospering and great. Its really not, after all.

paramiteabe · #17 09-13-2002, 05:13 PM

Well I guess we just have our own rights to our opinions don't we?

Majic · #18 09-13-2002, 05:15 PM

Yes, we do. I think your taking offense at my opinions though. Please don't.

Jacob · #19 09-13-2002, 05:29 PM

PA American have taken innocent lives. Not only through bombing the Afghanies but also through the Hiroshima incident. They could have left the bomb for a different time, but nooooo, they destroyed Hiroshima and thus caused illness through radiation for generations to come.

PA, good will not always prevail. Im living proof of Evil succeeding...

Fine, his planes are cowardly and absurd...But also clever and intricit...

If i had to say one thing about America it would be 'Corrupt' because i believe that the Government over there is quite bent and cover-up many things, not allowing the truth to get out. Also PA, the American troops were told not to help surrendered Taliban members when they were slaughtered (Although i dont really care, it serves as another point to prove that America is just as brutal as OBL)

SeaRex · #20 09-13-2002, 08:48 PM

You know, I just read something quite funny. In the Koran (I know I didn't spell it right, but is the Muslim form of the Bible) it says that if you die for your religion, you will always go to "heaven". However, it also clearly states THAT YOU CAN'T KILL YOURSELF! Hehehe... silly Taliban.

"OK, here's the deal. You are going to fly planes into major American landmarks, and I'll hide in this hole for a while."
"But, boss... doesn't is clearly say..."
"Yeah, well it says a lot of things... get going! Go! Go! Jihad!"

Al the Vykker · #21 09-13-2002, 09:12 PM

I personally think this would have never happened if Al Gore had been president, thats my theory which I wont go into much more detail about. Yes you may say Bush is doing fine I dissagree. Bush is a war monger. He lives for war, and conflicts. Yes I dislike Osama Bin Laden but George aint that better either. I also believe that the US should not be involved with the Israeli problems with the palestinians, we have no real right to take sides just because we may have a large jewish population in the country. And secondly, now Bush wants to invade Iraq. He needs to see that the countries in the world arent so willing to go to war with them, and that Bush, really in my opinion seems like his Father is calling the shots here. I personally cant wait to see a democrat in office again, Clinton may have been sleazy, but he atleast besides, that did a pretty damn good job, and we didnt have problems like this. Hopefully Al Gore will run again. and hopefully will be elected, or another strong democratic leader who isnt obsessed like Bush with war fare.

To add also, dont get me wrong I know as many other fellow americans did, I was very upset angry and saddened on 9-11-01 last year, and felt so much rage and hatred against Bin Laden. But it seems all to strange that after all those problems with faulty ballads in the 2000 election, and some accusations that the ballads werent counted as they should have been that a year later we are attacked while he is in office. Though I am angry that so many innocent people were killed and am still sad about the tradgedies in the Twin Towers and elsewhere, Bush needed to see that our nation isnt superior to everyone, that we are a strong nation, but not to the point that we are invincible.

And Finally before I say so much. It also shows, how he had been warned so many times, about possible hyjackings, and terror, such as flying planes into economic buildings and the such, but how our current ruling Republican party and security did not pay attention to the warnings, and resulted in a tradgedy that still could maybe been avoided.

***Alcar*** · #22 09-13-2002, 09:49 PM

I still think that even if Al Gore was president it would have happened. But I also think that Al Gore would have made a much better president, opposed to George Bush.

What I don't get is why George Bush has placed the attack on terrorism over the whole of Afganistan, I mean it's really only Osama (and his followers) and the Tali-ban.

I'm beginning to think this was a perfect excuse to get something from Afganistan, who knows maybe Afganistan has a huge amount of oil, just waiting to be sucked up by greedy US Presidents. Afterall, that's what started a lot of the stupid wars that have happened recently.

And also, that is my opinion, please don't get offened if others do not agree with you, it's theirs and your opinion.

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And Finally before I say so much. It also shows, how he had been warned so many times, about possible hyjackings, and terror, such as flying planes into economic buildings and the such, but how our current ruling Republican party and security did not pay attention to the warnings, and resulted in a tradgedy that still could maybe been avoided.

And this leads me to my point I stated above, America can't declare war until a war like act is commited against America. So why not sit back and relax, let 9/11 happen. Then you have a perfect chance to get into Afganistan, over war.

If I haven't made it clear, I do feel for those people and families who lost family members in 9/11. It shouldn't have happened, but neither should the attrocities that were commited against the Afgans.

A lot of innocent people died.

Alcar...