Eating Meat

[Sydney]

The "Smoking" topic inspired me to create a new thread about the social irresponsibilities of eating meat.

Eating meat is harmful for the environment. Forests are destroyed to create paddocks where cattle can be raised for meat, the cows also produce immeasurable amounts of methane which is damaging for the ozone layer. Rather than growing fields of crops to feed the cows only to eat the cows, it's much more efficient for us to simply eat the crops.

Eating meat makes your breath smell like decomposing flesh, and gives your body a strange, unpleasant odour. Only non-meat eaters can notice the smell because those who eat meat are used to it.

Eating meat causes a number of different types of cancers, and is also a leading cause of heart disease. As well as being unhealthy, eating meat shows a lack of compassion for those of us less advanced. Meat eaters inflict unnecesary suffering on others, sacrificing innocent lives in their quest for pleasure.

[Majic]

hm, well at least meat gives you protien....... wait, meat kills cows... and cows are cool.... bout wait, emat is cooler.... are you a vegey abe babe? hm, well im still gonna eat it, i mean you dont normaly hear about meat claiming thousands of victims. o well, im still gonna eat meat....

[Sydney]

My name is Sydney.

And meat claims billions of lives per year. Just because they aren't all human lives is no reason to turn a blind eye to the slaughter of innocents.

[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

Yeah but eating just fruits and vegetables is no party either. My friend was on a strict diet of eating just fruits and veggies and she looked soo unhealthy and her hair was falling out alittle. She looked kinda anorexic because she lacked some fat and being too skinny is not attractive nor is it healthy. Her hair was falling our because of the lack of protein in her body and your hair is made out of keratin and protein! (My mom told me, she's a hairdresser) You need fats to make calories in your system. Meat is the main source of vitamins and minerals needed for the human body.

Meat provides us with good quality protein but it is also a good, bioavailable source of minerals. (Bioavailable means the body can easily extract and use the minerals in meat.) Minerals in meat include iron, selenium, magnesium and zinc. Meat is also an important source of vitamin B12 and liver is rich in vitamin A. So, eating meat is not bad at all.Protein foods help your body build tissue and muscles

It's like taking iron pills. You need the hemoglobin in your blood but too much intake of iron pillls can be deadly.


Meat is important. It can be harmful if you abuse it.

Also, you can have bad breath from eating onions! In your face vegetables! Bwahahahhaahha! You would have to brush your teeth like ten million times.

[Steve]

I eat meat but I'm not going to say that it is the only way. one problem with vegitarianism is some people go too far. unless you know what vegtables will give you good protien(to make up for the loss) you will become unhealthy. there are some really bad variations of vegitarianism out there such as one where they don't like the killing of anything living so they only eat fruits (which is absurd) and there was a diet where for a few weeks all you could have is herbal tea. I am not making those up.

and again vegitarianism is not a bad thing.(I might not have said it already but I'm too lazy to check)

[Sydney]

Originally posted by PinkHaired Mudokon CWR
Yeah but eating just fruits and vegetables is no party either. My friend was on a strict diet of eating just fruits and veggies and she looked soo unhealthy and her hair was falling out alittle. She looked kinda anorexic because she lacked some fat and being too skinny is not attractive nor is it healthy. Her hair was falling our because of the lack of protein in her body and your hair is made out of keratin and protein! (My mom told me, she's a hairdresser) You need fats to make calories in your system. Meat is the main source of vitamins and minerals needed for the human body.

Your friend was likely suffering from Anemia, a disease caused by iron defficiency. Being a vegetarian means you must still eat the right foods, not just pick and choose any non-meat product you stumble upon. Soy, lentils, tofu, chikpeas, lima beans, swiss chard and many more are examples of delicious foods that supply you with more than enough iron. You are corect: your body needs fats, but your body doesn't need animal fats.

Meat provides us with good quality protein but it is also a good, bioavailable source of minerals. (Bioavailable means the body can easily extract and use the minerals in meat.) Minerals in meat include iron, selenium, magnesium and zinc. Meat is also an important source of vitamin B12 and liver is rich in vitamin A. So, eating meat is not bad at all.Protein foods help your body build tissue and muscles

Bioavailable is a slippery term that reminds me of words used in ads for moisturiser: "rejuvicell technology" and "retroactive." All of those minerals can easily be obtained through the right vegetables.

Meat is important.It can be harmful if you abuse it.

Meat is not important. I am healthy and don't eat it. The supposed benefits of meat are overshadowed with the harmful effects it has on your body. On average, vegetarians live ten years longer than meat eaters.

[RoN_Rancor]

I eat meat, and enjoy it. But, I can also understand why some people prefer not to. Other than the protien, it really isn't that healthy. Protien is needed for survival. I learned in biology that even though such foods as beans contain protien, they do not contain a type of protien that is very helpful in healing. This type of protien is only found in meat. As far as the methane argument is concerned, wouldn't there be more methane if nothing ate the cattle? Also, cattle eat grass, not crops. As for the smell, I have no idea what you are talking about. I have only met two vegetarians in real life, but they never complained about any smells. You are right about the destruction of forest, which does need to stop. I don't see how eating meat is immoral. We are an omniverous animal species, we eat meat and plants. Why is it wrong for humans to eat cattle whereas it is ok for say a wolf to eat the same cow? Plants are also alive too. There is no way to avoid killing something for our survival. Though it is not a painless death, it's not like people torture them or anything.

I respect your decision not to eat meat. However, I will never stop eating it.



Uh....Is that avatar what I think it is? That's not very family friendly...

[Joe the Intern]

I understand why you would choose not to eat meat, Sydney, but I eat it anyway. People and animals alike have killed other animals for centuries. Just because we have become more civilized doesn't mean we should stop. Survival of the fittest. I may sound callous, but it's how I feel. And, if cows create methane, wouldn't eating cows keep the methane level down? Again, I respect your views, but I see no problem in eating meat.

[Surfacing]

Syd i don't know about you, but i would rather be eating meat than smoking weed dude,which is also illigal! Least eating meat don't **** up your lungs or cause's you lung cancer (ignore this if you don't smoke weed), Also meat is rich in Iron, i don't eat it cause of all the killing that is involved i eat it cause i like it. The only meat eaters i hate are cannibals like one of my friends, he tried to bite my bleeding wound the other the night, crazy bastard.

[Sydney]

I figured I should say that I'm not usually a militant vegetarian, and this is mainly a response to the Smoking topic.

Ron, if nothing ate the cattle then there wouldn't be cattle to begin with. The only reason they're bred is to be killed and eaten. Humans don't require meat to survive, so that throws the argument for survival out the window. A wolf can't digest plants, so it is okay for them to hunt and eat animals. We on the other hand, know that we can live perfectly healthily on a diet without meat. Plants don't have a nervous system, they're not conscious beings.

Uh....Is that avatar what I think it is? That's not very family friendly...

What do you think my avatar is, and how is it unfriendly to families?

Joe, as I've said before, eating meat is not about survival of the fittest. Humans have done many things for centuries, that is no reason to continue doing it. Humans once burned witches alive and murdered each other, by your reasoning we should continue doing it.

[Steve]

not suffer? they kill them by putting a rail road spike through their head(I think), they live in small places and live misreble lives.

[RoN_Rancor]

Ron, if nothing ate the cattle then there wouldn't be cattle to begin with. The only reason they're bred is to be killed and eaten.

Even if they weren't bred and kept on farms, cows would still exist and would produce just as much methane as before.

[Sydney]

Originally posted by RoN_Rancor
Even if they weren't bred and kept on farms, cows would still exist and would produce just as much methane as before.

How do you figure that? Of course some cows would still exist, but no where near the number bred for meat production. Of what economic value would the same number of cows producing the same amount of methane be?

[RoN_Rancor]

I don't know much about cows, but I assume that they would breed nearly as much wild as captive, and without a major predator to eat them, they would live longer. Unless you are suggesting that because of the pollution that large amounts would be killed, it would still be about the same. If that were the case, then wouldn't it be better to eat the cows that are killed instead of just letting the food go to waste?

[Sydney]

I never suggested we unleash domesticated cows into the wild, as well as potentially destroying the ecosystem, they may not survive anyway. The most practical way would be to eat the remaining cows, or keep them for milk production.

Is my avatar still concerning you?

[mitsur]

Originally posted by Sydney
My name is Sydney.

And meat claims billions of lives per year. Just because they aren't all human lives is no reason to turn a blind eye to the slaughter of innocents.

no offence, but it sounds like the president said that.
but thats a good look at everything!

[RoN_Rancor]

Ok. But if they were kept for milk, that still doesn't stop the methane problem. I'm tired of arguing though...I respect your decision not to eat meat.

The avatar doesn't really bother me, I was mostly kidding before.
It just wasn't something I expected to see here.

[Majic]

for one i believe some people are using the term vegetarian wrong, i regret to inform myself i for one did. a vegetarian actualy doesnt eat food relating with the animal, of course thats the extreme. like some people wont drink milk or eat eggs, along with meat. well, eating excessive meat is unhealthy, but not any isnt always that wise... it gives great nutriants and such, but to much of a good thing is bad. i do pity the animals being killed, but sydney, i think before that whoever said weve done it before and we'll do it again or whatever, and you mentioned burning witches, i think he meant more of like weve been eating meat for a long time, why stop now. then again, i am sumewhat of the slang "vegey" as in i dont always eat meat on common type things, tacos and sandwiches and stuff..... then again, whats thanksgiving without the turkey?

[Disgruntled Intern]

While i respect others choices not to eat meat, i expect them to respect my choice as well.
I don't eat TOO much meat, although i'm not a vegetarian either.
I guess i must be a hybrid of some sort (heh) since i generally prefer artificial meats and food products rather than the real thing.
The only type of vegetarians that annoy me are vegans (i think that's what they call themselves)...completly swearing off milk and other dairy products is a bit drastic IMHO, but it's their choice to make, silly or otherwise.

[abe22]

I respect that some of you don't eat meat but I do all right. I am not a very big meat eater but I'm not a vegie person either. I like some vegies, well parts of them like the inside of beans and peas and the tops of brocolli and the sides of pumpkin (Weird ah?)I like potatoes too. And if anyone says go to a slaughter house and you will be instantly a vegetarian that depends on how well you take killing things. I for one have actually been in a slaughter house and I still eat as much meat as I did before. About that meat making your breath smell bad that is bullshit a quarter of my friends are vegetarians (and I have a lot of friends) and we bad mouth each other all the time and they have said nothing about me or any of my other friends breaths stinking (and if it is true they would say it at any given chance .)

One last thing, Sydney are you trying to make us convert to just eating vegies?

[Disgruntled Intern]

Abe22, I think Sydney is trying to do just the opposite of that. He seems to honor our choice to eat meat, although he may not agree with it.
I for one, like hearing everyone's opinions, as i like to learn things about people as individuals, not as a whole.

[ODDBODD]

the only thing i have a problem with vegies is that even if they stop eating meat it isn't going to stop the other people from poopatising the animals.

The only suggestion i can think of is to go down there and chuck an abe on the slaughter houses.

[Gluk Schmuck]

Originally posted by Majic_Abe
then again, whats thanksgiving without the turkey?

Urm, I'd expect it would STILL be Thanks Giving.

I had a Curry last Xmas, I suppose that offends you.

[One, Two, Middlesboogie]

Even if nobody ate meat, there would still be the milk and leather industries keeping cows. Hence just as much cow methane.

[dark_xinos]

We humans are ment to eat meat! We are carnevours. Were not supost only eat meat or greens. A nice mix is just what the boody needs! My freind is a vegitarian. And i respact that. Sure, i mean, its not pritty in the slaughter houses and the cows that are "prudussed"... yeh. I can see why. Ya can alwas make you're self a deal... Make sure you eat animals that have had a good live in freedom. (not comleately free. But so they can run around and stay helthy. Then "snickerdy-snatch", they make some fammely happy...yum yum!

Just think. How would you get a job like Rupure Farms (glukkon that is) if you're a vegitarian... Thel kick ya out. Sorry.

[One, Two, Middlesboogie]

Originally posted by dark_xinos
We humans are ment to eat meat! (1) We are carnevours.(2) Were not supost only eat meat or greens. A nice mix is just what the boody needs! My freind is a vegitarian. And i respact that. Sure, i mean, its not pritty in the slaughter houses and the cows that are "prudussed"... yeh. I can see why. Ya can alwas make you're self a deal... Make sure you eat animals that have had a good live in freedom. (not comleately free. But so they can run around and stay helthy. Then "snickerdy-snatch", they make some fammely happy...yum yum! (3)

Just think. How would you get a job like Rupure Farms (glukkon that is) if you're a vegitarian... Thel kick ya out. Sorry. (4)

1) We did evolve equipement for eating meat (canines and intestines) ages ago, but only because there were no cheese or soya products, etc. So meat was the only way our ancestors could get protein. Just because we have the equipment we don't have to use it.

2) No, we're omnivores.

3) You mean free-range?

4) This is Earth, not Oddworld. And how do you know, anyway?

And learn to spell, for Odd's sake!

[Sydney]

Originally posted by One, Two, Middlesboogie
Hence just as much cow methane.

I don't think there'd be just as much methane. If the only cows in existence were for leather and milk production, I can't see any logical reason why their numbers would be upped to compensate the loss of cows bred for meat.

[sligface202]

uh,Sydney...No offense,but...Are u a vegetarian?

[Gluk Schmuck]

Originally posted by sligface202
uh,Sydney...No offense,but...Are u a vegetarian?

Uh, Sligface. No offence but, yes!

[sligface202]

meat does not only com from cows ya know!pork is meat and it is from pig,so we could stop eating cows and eat pork instead.(ralfs)naahh no way man!i'm stickin' with cow meat,not to offend anyone,but i just like meat!Also,yes onion breath smells bad,i once ate a onion and steak sandwich and suddenly!...My minty fresh breath had gone bad!It actually smelled like crap!