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Theories on Nolybab

Okay, so as the title suggests, what are your thought son the location known as "Nolybab"?

We all presume it to be the place where Maggie gives birth to all of the glukkons and rides around in that carriage thing, but what are some other details about it?

My guess is that it is the oddworld version of Hollywood. Suggested from the television program E, the True Nolybab Story. I am guesing it is more of a city however, where the Magog Cartel is headed.

I also believe it lies in the dead center of Mudos, kind of like the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. I base this because of its small (or large) influence on both parts of Mudos.

Also, has anyone else noticed that Nolybab is "Babylon" spelled backwards? I haven't looked into it that much, but just sticking that out there in case anyone wanted to make some comments on that.
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Dude, the parallels between OW and the bible are cool
but only in the book of Revelations really.
Magog is in the Book of Revelations.
Babylon is in the Book of Revelations, and both of them are mentioned badly.
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Magog is in the Book of Revelations.
Indeed.

It's one of the two armies Satan calls to his side to try and crush Zion.

Since I'm never on as much as I should probably be threatened to be, care to brief me on this "Nolybab" place?
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Yeah. I can't say i've ever heard of Nolybab.
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I never noticed that book of Revelations parallel I think I'll read it once

Nolybab is where glukkons are born if I do remember corectly, I'll have to find the source article.

Someone tried that discussion some time ago here:
http://www.oddworldforums.net/printthread.php?t=194

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That is impressive Xav. and Used.
:? why i didnt notice that?
As a thought is Abe = Abarham then what is maggie related to according to scriptures?
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Let's not read too much into everything. Yes, some things are bible-sourced but not absolutely everything.

There is no Maggie in the bible. I suspect the name came from the similarity to Magog.
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I've always felt Oddworld incorporated aspects from lots of varying religions. Abraham could also be a referance to the Biblical father of God's chosen people (in this case, Odd's chosen people). They also seem to borrow from various Eastern and Nature based religions, as well as some American Indian spiritual stuff for Stranger.

There is no Margret in the Bible. There is, however, Gog and Magog.
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I always assumed Abe was named after Abraham Lincoln, the President of America credited with lots of good anti-slavery stuff.
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Abe and Abraham lincoln have more sence to be lniked togeter
the bible Abraham didn't do much intresting stuff "slave related"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham

I only found somewhere he was son of Sem

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His father was Terach. Shem was his ancestor 9 generations up.

But I agree that Abe Lincoln is the more likely reference; if you were going to name the savior of the mudokons after any biblical character, Moses is a more obvious choice.
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His father was Terach. Shem was his ancestor 9 generations up.

But I agree that Abe Lincoln is the more likely reference; if you were going to name the savior of the mudokons after any biblical character, Moses is a more obvious choice.
True, true.

Actually, Nolybab or Babylon isn't such a bad idea as the seat of the Magog Empire. According to Revelations, Babylon was the seat of an evil empire...THE evil empire, to be persice.

Curious...
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Well of course. Babylon destroyed the first Judean temple and scattered the people so they're not exactly regarded positively in Judeo-Christian texts. The Romans destroyed the second Temple so they're portrayed negatively in Jewish texts but positively in Christian because the early Christians wanted to convert Romans.
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