Kittens are cramed into bottles for a stupid novelty. . .

[glukkon_daniel]

See, my thinking is this:

I love to eat meat, but animals get killed to MAKE the meat. If I could stop the killing by being a vegetarian, I would become a vegetarian. But if I become a vegetarian, not only would I not be able to eat meat, but animals would still be killed and would suffer, so there's no point in me suffering as well.

How I feel about stopping animal killing by becoming a vegetarian:

I would if I could, but I can't so I won't.

[DarkHoodness]

I was forced to eat meat once in primary school. After telling my parents as soon as I got home, the school got told off, and that was only then that they belived I was a vegitarian. Stupid school.
*Mutters something bad about his old primary school*
Anyway, no, I do not belive eating other animals is wrong, it's just they way that they are mass produced, kept, transported, and slaughtered that I don't like.
- DH

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: Dark Hood ]

[LuxoJr]

The school made you eat the meat? Those SOBs!

***fumes about the education system***

[Gluk Schmuck]

WOW!!! i thought my first school was bad...
one of the reasons i'm vegitarian is the difference between pets and food...would you take your pet dog to Korea? or your pet hourse to Portugal?

P.S. i saw this program about vampires (not the type that turn to dust in sunlight), and one of them said the blood of vegitarians tasted better...us Vs are valued...

[Alector]

i'm not a real meat-eater, i never liked meat!
I just eat meat when we make a barbecue! I hate pork, it's disgusting!!!

I never would eat pork (not too much),

[Sydney]

Well, I think I've said all I really can about the "Humans are Animals" debate. As I said, Pink, if you want to talk about it again using facts, let me know.

I remember the discussion about vegetarianism back at the old EZboard. I was surprised that there were plenty of others, I guess Oddworld attracts that kind of crowd. I've been a veg for quite a while now, and I feel healthy. I just don't want to contribute to an industry that thrives on the maming of living beings, and the taste of their flesh turns me right off.

Dakkan Blackblade wrote:
Dude, why is sid always editing my posts! Why don't you e-mail me and let ME do it![/b]

Huh? I deleted ONE of your posts, which was about the Rotten site and linked to some page about vaginas. I've only ever edited one of your posts, and why should I go to the trouble to email you when I can delete your post myself? It seems stupid to bother when one of the purposes of an Administrator is to carry out functions like these...

[Joe the Intern]

dont attack pinkhaired. you can learn something and not belive in it. by religion, i dont believe in evolution even though i answer questions on tests about the evolutionary process. because she gets good grades in biology doesnt mean she has to believe what she was taught. it is wrong to attack peoples beliefs and say they are stupid for what they believe in. and some people may call me stupid for not believing in evolution but that is their problem.

[Alector]

I thought this topic is about Kittens and not religion, vegetarians, meat eater ect.
this is totally deviade from this topic...
We know, it was just a joke...but this topic have now three topics in it...

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[Dakkan Blackblade]

I LOVE MEAT - MEDIUM RARE - STILL MOO'N!

[Alector]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!!! Medium aaargh!!!!! I hate Medium Steak or other meat, it's blOody!!! baaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!! Meat is disgusting

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[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

Originally posted by Joe the Intern:
dont attack pinkhaired. you can learn something and not belive in it. by religion, i dont believe in evolution even though i answer questions on tests about the evolutionary process. because she gets good grades in biology doesnt mean she has to believe what she was taught. it is wrong to attack peoples beliefs and say they are stupid for what they believe in. and some people may call me stupid for not believing in evolution but that is their problem.

*applause* That was what I was trying to tell people! LOL. Just because you learn it in school, does'nt mean that you have to believe in it, like evolution theory.

But on the other hand, I eat meat, but motly fish and counterfeit meat like T.V. dinners! Alright! T.V. Dinners are mad gravy!

[glukkon_daniel]

Person-who-said-not-to-attack-pinkhaired:

You may not believe in evolution, but that is something that needs evidence to prove correct. Humans are animals by definition, which needs no evidence to prove because there is nothing to prove. Someone defined animals, and humans fit that definition.

Evolution, however, is one of those things that IS kind of like the people-thought-the-world-was-flat kind of thing. It has been proven (sort of), but some theories suggest that evolution is not real.

However, NO theories suggest that humans are not animals, because every living thing on this planet other than plants are animals. We are simply the dominant animals who are very smart. Nowhere does it say that if you are smart and can reason that you are not an animal.

[Sydney]

I wasn't picking on Pinkhaired. In a discussion about ethics, she stated:

um alector...we are not animals actually. We are mammals yes, but we can reason, animals can't.

Sure, she can believe that humans are not animals, but when she corrects someone else for stating a fact, I'm going to give my opinion.

Sure, you don't have to believe anything. You can believe that gravity doesn't exist, and when you fall over it is a demon striking you to the ground. But when you bring these kind of things into a discussion, expect people to disagree with you.

[glukkon_daniel]

Right on, Sydney.

[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

Daniel, your like 9 or 10 years old. Humans are classified as animals but are not animals for alot of reasons. Your not making any sense by saying that we are dominant and talk and stuff. What about Parrots? Or Gorillas? It did not say in the bible that we are animals it just said that we were man. it did'nt say the dominant animal God created wass humans. He called Animals Animals and humans humans, so I believe it's still not proven that humans are animals. I can gice you reasons why animals and humans are not alike.

And Sydman, what are you talking about?
. When people disagree with me that's okay. I'm stating my opinion.

[Joe the Intern]

hey daniel, its ok that you believe in evolution. but i dont because: where did the animals come from? answer=amoeba where did the amoeba come from? from there we have to revert back to the big bang thoery. but where did the gases for the big bang theory come from? answer=? that is mainly why i dont believe in evolution. so evolution hasnt quite been proven. unless im like way behind the times and stuff. but if anyone has better proof that evolution is real, id like to see it.

[Joe the Intern]

i watched the show "real tv" about a half an hour ago and there are people in south korea that eat LIVE squid!! im not a vegetarian but i think eating something that is alive is disgusting

[TheBlueScrab]

Hi
ewwwwww...i hate medium or bloody steaks that is sooo disgusting. Übääääääh!!!
Pfui!
Last time i ate with Alector in a restaurant a bloody steak....that was sooooooo forbidding!!!
A plate rife with animal blood!
I had the feeling that i must barf!!!
I couldn´t ate that!
I would never eat a bloody steak again!!!
NEVER!!!

Bye, TheBlueScrab

[Statikk HDM]

Yo DH, chill the Bonsai kitten is a friggen joke. The boar thing though is sick as Hell. I'm not a PETA charter member but that was twisted. I eat meat, have a shotgun, and have hunted. Okay,I'll admit it, killing a turkey is hard as Hell. But if your going to rant about the missfortune of kitten actors, do Tounces. He was Forced to work long hours, got paid jakkshit, and after the bastards at Snl milked the falling off the cliff bit for all it was worth the kicked tounces to the curb. Now that surreal episode still brings a tear to my eyes,"sob".

[glukkon_daniel]

Daniel, your like 9 or 10 years old. [No, I'm 13.] Humans are classified as animals but are not animals for alot of reasons. Your not making any sense by saying that we are dominant and talk and stuff. [Yes I am! You just said it... We are dominant, and we talk and stuff. YOU'RE not making any sense by saying we are classified as animals, but are not.] What about Parrots? Or Gorillas? [What about them? Yeah, they're animals...] It did not say in the bible that we are animals [Nor did it say anything about gravity] it just said that we were man. [Man=human, human=animal.] it did'nt say the dominant animal that God created was humans. [He made us to be the dominant species.] He called Animals Animals and humans humans, [Did he call parakeets parakeets? Or did he call loins lions? Are you saying that every animal on the earth is just called,"animal"? It does not matter that he called us humans, and them animals. If he called a gorilla a gorilla, would that make it a gorilla and not an animal? No, it would make it a gorilla, which IS an animal. Humans are animals. We fit the definition of animal. And God never called us mammals, but we are mammals. God never called us humans (he called us man), but we are humans.] so I believe it's still not proven that humans are animals. I can give you reasons why animals and humans are not alike. [Okay, go ahead.]

Sydney, please help me out here!

[Sydney]

I can't really say anymore on the "Humans are Animals" debate. I think we've established a good argument, and the very definition of animal proves that humans are indeed animals.

To understand that humans are animals, we need to know the definition of animal. An animal is defined as:

A multicellular organism of the kingdom Animalia, differing from plants in certain typical characteristics such as capacity for locomotion, nonphotosynthetic metabolism, pronounced response to stimuli, restricted growth, and fixed bodily structure.

Do humans fit this criteria? Let's see.

Multicellular: Yes.
Capacity for locomotion: Yes.
Nonphotosynthetic metabolism: Yes.
Pronounced response to stimuli: Yes.
Restricted growth: Yes.
Fixed bodily structure: Yes.

So by our very definition, we are animals. It doesn't need to be proven because it is already an established fact. Does it need to be proven that the sky is blue? Maybe to a blind person, which is impossible. Just like in this argument, you can not prove that humans are animals to those who are blind to the facts.

[Joe the Intern]

who said God named the animals? arent we the ones who named gorillas gorillas? arent we the ones that named lions lions? when God created animals he set them apart from us because God created man in His own image. god wasnt the one that named the animals. WE did. He created us to be different from the animals.

[Dakkan Blackblade]

Bloody steak! Can't beat it! Nice and red!

[glukkon_daniel]

I like my steak medium-well. I wish I had some right now...

[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

I like mines brown and burnt! Bwahahahahahhahaha!

On the other note, I apologize Daniel, I thought you were like 9 or 10. But Joe proved my point exactly. God did not call man an animal. Only man did. Even though Adam named every animal. It states in Genesis 1:27So God created man in his own image. In the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.So we look like God alittle. God said that animals were only this earth for our special needs. It also said in the bible that animals cannot sin, reason, nor do they have souls so God made us way different than animals.

On evolution, Joe did hit the nail what I was thinking. How did all of the evidence get here? If we evolve from monkeys, would the monkeys today be human? Where did the particles come from, from the Big Bang theory? .it just sounds so irrelevant. And in the bible channel, they found a skeleton bone, OLDER than a dino bone by using carbon-14 radioactive dating. And the skeleton did not look likr a neanderthol one, it looked like a skull like ours.

[Joe the Intern]

porterhouse, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssty. i like mine medium well too. i hate em when theyre burnt.

[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

Crispier is better

[Joe the Intern]

i hate crispy

[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

I love it

[Joe the Intern]

my big sister likes crispy but i dont because its too hard to cut and little flaky things get everywhere.