Loch Ness... -

paramiteabe · #31 02-17-2004, 04:37 AM

like I said before people doubt it is real but a selected few think it has a chance of maybe being real and thats a big maybe. Here is an intresting photogragh. I don't think this is real.

Esus · #32 02-17-2004, 05:08 AM

Now maybe if there was a good clear one that obviously wasn't photoshopped, but that picture could have been hoaxed to look like that ^ nearly one hundred years ago, thus I am sceptic.

Fez · #33 02-17-2004, 09:54 AM

that picture was made by an infared camera or something. But yeh it looks pretty fake.

Sekto Springs · #34 02-17-2004, 03:31 PM

It looks like a bad picture of one of those jarred fish.

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Maybe the 1934 photogragh was taken with a 1934 styal low res camera which could too explane it bluryness. Who knows. But if there is any kind of monster in our world that scientifically truely exist. It would have to be The Giant Squid. Sperm Whales eat Giant Squid and one washed up on a shore years ago. A baby whiched measured more than 30ft in size. God knows how big a grown up is.

I'm the expert on anything squid...
Sperm Whales eat the Giant squid but only for a specific point in their life when they need the most amount of fat in the arctic step in their migration, all this kaka about Sperm Whales being non-migratory is a crock of shit.

The baby Inchateuthis displayed in this
picture was 18 feet long.

The Architeuthis Dux or Giant Squid is known to be up to about 40 feet in length, but this has only been finalised by a thorough but uncertain study of their smaller cousins Inchateuthis Dux (a baby Inchateuthis displayed in hence picture). Scientists--after studying beached parts of Archateuthis-- conclude that this beast could be up to 150-200 feet in length (including the tentacles)! Despite the size of these beasts no one has ever seen a whole one alive in its natural environment. If we can't even find a giant squid, think of how many smaller but just as interesting creatures are living out their lives undiscovered in the worlds oceans! Some of them can even be found in shallow water in the ocean near your home. To me, the giant squid represents many things. One of them is the shift of money, resources and scientific manpower towards the molecular and reductionist explanations that dominate present day biology. This has come at the expense of organismal biology, natural history, systematics and other fields of basic biology. If we are an intelligent species, shouldn't we put more effort into finding out everything we can about our environment and the animals that live in it? Aren't basic questions like "What is it?, How long does it live? What does it eat?" just as important? Isn't it surprising that somewhere out there is a 60 foot long beast that no human has ever seen alive in its natural habitat? Doesn't this suggest that there are a lot of creatures, especially invertebrates, out their in rainforests and coral reefs and maybe even your own backyard that nothing or almost nothing is known about?

Anyway, I don't think that those waves or any of that were caused by a giant squid, they wouldn't be driven from their deep home unless they were disturbed by a large bomb (hydrogen in mind) and even if they were disturbed they would not come so close to this surface.

Joe the Glukkon · #35 02-17-2004, 04:10 PM

Here is a link that has some Nessie photographs.Click the next button for Loch Ness Monster pictures,and previous for Bigfoot images.

http://www.consumptive.org/weblog/crypto/igopogo.html

Fez · #36 02-17-2004, 11:05 PM

that was a very good site Jacob. it didnt include the Chupacabra or Trunko though...

the Kasai Rex is very interesting.

you have to realise that there could be whole colonies of creatures in loch ness, Cahmplain etc etc. Ion Jacobs site it showed that pleaseosaur bones have been found in Loch Ness!

is there such thing as a "pirahna squid"? or was it a fake article that i read?

Megaladon, dead or alive? Disscuss.

paramiteabe · #37 02-18-2004, 05:47 AM

Another Giant that lives with us is the Great White Shark. a True killing machine. But did you know that the Great Whites Cousin Charcharodon Megalodon could eat a small car? This was truely Jaws and a monster of the ocieans of the world. Here is a picture of this shark's teeth compared to the Great White.

I like this photogragh of the the entire jaws of this beast that roamed the seas during early days of man. But as it says in the photo its jaw is not quite up to scale. But thats what modern day Scientists claim. They could have been different sizes. But still this beast was huge and I am sure nobody would dare go swimming in the ocieans with this thing out and about. Its scary because we don't know whats out there that live in the deep ocieans of the world. Quite possibly there could be something worse than this beast. rather disturbing don't you think?

Some 12 000 years ago, at about the time when mammoths became extinct, humans who ventured into the sea faced the possibility of meeting the largest fish- eating shark that has ever lived -a close relative of the great white.

Estimates vary for the length of Carcharodon megalodon -as this monster has been named -but the most realistic seem to agree on a figure of between 12 and 15 m (40 and 50 ft), with a weight of around 20 tonnes.

Teeth from this giant shark -some measuring up to 152 mm (6 in) in length, and weighing 340 g (12 oz) -are"commonly found in Palaeocene sediments from around the world. Many have also been dredged from the sea floor.

Nobody can be sure exactly when megalodon became extinct, and some optimists have even claimed that isolated specimens may still exist in the ocean depths today. Most scientists, however, dismiss this possibility out of hand.

Fez · #38 02-18-2004, 06:02 AM

i still think there are some out there. Hell, we know more about the moon then we do about the sea. Something that big wont just die out.

oddguy · #39 02-18-2004, 09:12 AM

I knew this elderly chap that had really bad cancer and he was on the verge of death. He worked for the government most of his life, so now that he was dying, he didn't care about what he told me. For instance, he'd been to Area 51 and said that it didn't have much alien stuff. He said Area 51 was something to distract the public while actual alien stuff was going on at Area 49. He didn't tell me where it was, but I know this guy wouldn't make stuff up. Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because my old friend says that the govermnet has underwater bases deep under the sea. He was stationed there for a while. Anyway, old guy friend of mine had a tatoo of this fierce looking sea creature that I'd never seen before. I asked him if that was something he saw while at the underwater base. He said, "Yes. His name is 'Satan of the deep'." So I totally believe in these mammoth sea beasts.

-oddguy

Statikk HDM · #40 02-18-2004, 11:07 AM

Loch Ness, bigfoot, The Jersy Devil, and UFOs do not belong to the world of reality. They belong to the batshit-crazy world of tabloids and thats were I want them to stay. Right next to the article about Elvis being spotted at a Denny's.

oddguy · #41 02-18-2004, 11:15 AM

Just because I believe in the existence of UFO's, Bigfoot, Ghosts, etc, doesn't mean I believe in everything out there. There are some things out there that have evidence to back it up. Some things that cannot be disproved.

-oddguy

Esus · #42 02-18-2004, 11:47 AM

... and some things can not be proved.

greenangel · #43 02-18-2004, 12:11 PM

*hums x-files tune* ^_^

With the technology we have nowadays, it probably won't be long till we come to the truth of such paranormal beliefs. Unless, of course, it really IS a hoax that rakes in the money with it's mystery aspect.

Sekto Springs · #44 02-18-2004, 01:31 PM

Ghosts all da' way! They rock my socks!

I hope they prove that ghosts exist so all those Jahova's Witnesses can crawl back into their holes!

paramiteabe · #45 02-18-2004, 02:40 PM

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i still think there are some out there. Hell, we know more about the moon then we do about the sea. Something that big wont just die out.

Well perhaps Megalodon is still alive. It would have to be a creature that lives in the open sea and no where near land. If anything it would live on an ociean ridge half way from the bottom to the top in the partally lit part of the sea.

Well the only explantion why this monster could be extinct is because probabally man hunted this creature to extinction. Something that big remindes me of whaleing. You can kill this shark by harpooning it just like a whale. It probabally was a favorite delicasy in ancient times. I mean have you ever had shark? Shark is really good. I would have to admit that would have been a spectacular sight indeed to see fisher men go up against this beast. I mean imagine the fierocity of this shark. Good God it must have been one hell of a fish. I am sure catching that would be a prize and made someone rich. It definetly was probabally hunted by man in the same fashion as how whales get hunted. But I think there still out there.

I love the ociean its such a cool place.

Fez · #46 02-18-2004, 10:58 PM

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I knew this elderly chap that had really bad cancer and he was on the verge of death. He worked for the government most of his life, so now that he was dying, he didn't care about what he told me. For instance, he'd been to Area 51 and said that it didn't have much alien stuff. He said Area 51 was something to distract the public while actual alien stuff was going on at Area 49. He didn't tell me where it was, but I know this guy wouldn't make stuff up. Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because my old friend says that the govermnet has underwater bases deep under the sea. He was stationed there for a while. Anyway, old guy friend of mine had a tatoo of this fierce looking sea creature that I'd never seen before. I asked him if that was something he saw while at the underwater base. He said, "Yes. His name is 'Satan of the deep'." So I totally believe in these mammoth sea beasts.

-oddguy

no offence man, but that seems like bullshit. You would have been taken out ages ago if your grandad told you that, even if he was dieing.

Esus · #47 02-19-2004, 01:46 AM

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He said Area 51 was something to distract the public while actual alien stuff was going on at Area 49

So what's Area 50?

Fez · #48 02-19-2004, 01:55 AM

my house, honest. Its full of experimental guns and stuffs....

Fez · #49 02-19-2004, 01:59 AM

that site Joe put up... Bloody fake "Skunk Ape" nice chuparacabra pic though, makes me want one as a pet...

oddguy · #50 02-19-2004, 10:40 AM

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no offence man, but that seems like bullshit. You would have been taken out ages ago if your grandad told you that, even if he was dieing.

Wasn't my grandad...and I haven't really told anyone else. Just you guys. I mean, my family knows and that's it. But, I really doubt the government is watching the OWF. Oh, and no offence was taken.

-oddguy

Joe the Glukkon · #51 02-19-2004, 03:48 PM

For the people who don't believe in Nessie, Loch Ness is twenty-four miles (39 km) long, but only about a mile (1.6 km) wide.Until 1970, it was thought that the lake was about 754 feet (230 m) deep.So there has to be a living creature in the lake of Loch Ness.

Here is an interesting story of a man called John Cobb's death in Loch Ness:

One of the strangest stories connected with Nessie has to do with the death of a famous water racer.John Cobb was known as the fastest man on Earth because he held the land speed record.He brought a jet-propelled boat to Loch Ness to try and set a water speed record.One of the reasons Cobb chose Loch Ness was the surface calm of the loch.When Cobb had the boat up to 205 miles (330 km) per hour,strange ripples suddenly appeared in front of it.The speeding boat hit the waves and bounced,exploding on contact.Cobb was killed.For many people, there was no doubt that Nessie caused the tragedy.

Here is a picture of John Cobb (left) and I believe the boat he exploded in (right)

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that site Joe put up... Bloody fake "Skunk Ape" nice chuparacabra pic though, makes me want one as a pet...

That Chupacabra looks kinda cute.Wish I had one...

greenangel · #52 02-19-2004, 07:24 PM

I asked my buddy about the chupacabra a while back when I wanted to learn more of it since I hadn't heard much of it at all, and he started lookin around for pics of it on the net, and he found me this really wicked picture that just blew my mind away, so I've been keeping it to show to my buds and stuff... I just thought it was way cool, even if it IS fake, though it looks pretty real to me.

Esus · #53 02-19-2004, 10:28 PM

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Loch Ness is twenty-four miles (39 km) long, but only about a mile (1.6 km) wide.Until 1970, it was thought that the lake was about 754 feet (230 m) deep.So there has to be a living creature in the lake of Loch Ness.

Mars is millions of times much deeper and larger than the loch, but it doesn't mean something has to living there. Things don't work like that.
Anyway, that something could be anything, from gold fish sized fish to turtles - but not great menacing sea monsters.

Even if Nessie and a lot of these monsters did exist, they're probably died by now. It's not like they have advanced medicines to make them older and more fit...

Fez · #54 02-20-2004, 04:30 AM

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I asked my buddy about the chupacabra a while back when I wanted to learn more of it since I hadn't heard much of it at all, and he started lookin around for pics of it on the net, and he found me this really wicked picture that just blew my mind away, so I've been keeping it to show to my buds and stuff... I just thought it was way cool, even if it IS fake, though it looks pretty real to me.

thats not a chupacabra...t'is not cool looking enough.

Joe the Glukkon · #55 02-20-2004, 10:31 AM

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Mars is millions of times much deeper and larger than the loch, but it doesn't mean something has to living there. Things don't work like that.
Anyway, that something could be anything, from gold fish sized fish to turtles - but not great menacing sea monsters.

Even if Nessie and a lot of these monsters did exist, they're probably died by now. It's not like they have advanced medicines to make them older and more fit...

Well, that was just an opinion,I'm not saying there really is something in Loch Ness, but I hope there is.How deep Loch Ness is,and how long it is,there is a 90 percent chance of an unknown living thing in the lake of Loch Ness.

greenangel, I highly doubt that that's a chupacabra.It looks like a Halloween mask.And in my opinion, the eyes on the thing looks like the eye holes you see out of a mask.(My opinion)

Sekto Springs · #56 02-20-2004, 11:31 AM

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thats not a chupacabra...t'is not cool looking enough.

I was watching one of those Unsolved Mysteries shows a while back, an ass-load of Latinos described seeing the chupacabra jump out in front of their headlights on the road and scurry back into the brush. Described as a hairy animal about 4 feet tall with a large--almost fin-like-- appendage growing out of it's skull. They said it had glossy red eyes and large canines, and that it's hands/paws/claws had large talons for rendering flesh. I think it's a bit bogus that they can describe it in such detail when they only saw it for like a few seconds.

Fez · #57 02-22-2004, 12:13 AM

that sounds like the Chupercabra i know and love. Anyone heard of "death worms"?

these supposed 5 metre long worms that live in the desert, they are capable of spitting an acid from thire mouths, and have 3 metre long tenticles on thier tails which can emit electricity. I cant find any pics, so i'll scan one out of my cyrptozoology book for ya'll.

Esus · #58 02-22-2004, 12:52 AM

Why would evolution equip them with electricity in the desert?

Fez · #59 02-22-2004, 12:58 AM

i dunno, a guy poked one in the tail with a metal rod and he was electrocuted.

Esus · #60 02-22-2004, 01:14 AM

That doesn't make sense. Sand is not the best conductor of electricity and such a attack/defense thing would hardly ever be used. Maybe if it lived in the water...