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True. For all we know Glukkons could be born with perfectly usable legs, but are raised from birth to walk on their arms. This seems kind of silly, but who am I to judge Glukkon culture?
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It would actually make sense. The height of fashion can be to use the body in wholy unhealthy way. Although the only example I can think of is horses being made to hold their heads far too high to look posh.

But then, why hide that fact from everyone else?
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Hrm a Slig coup d'état could happen maybe in the last game or it might make for some interesting fan fiction.
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I always thought Glukkons were like that because they were completely taken care of by slaves, as well. Not that they had slaves because they were like that.
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It would actually make sense. The height of fashion can be to use the body in wholy unhealthy way. Although the only example I can think of is horses being made to hold their heads far too high to look posh.
The closest human comparison could be Chinese foot-binding.
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That too.
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Maybe they bound their legs so that it increases blood flow to the brain.. they have big heads, probably because they have big brains as a result of the increased bloodflow.. They choose to bind their legs because they can still use their hands just fine as long as they are sitting down or something.. maybe they have some sort of bionic legs like the sligs when they're not wearing them silly shoulder-pad suits
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There's a thought- if they can make bionic legs for their sligs, then they should be able to make them fore themselves. Which means they either aren't allowed to, or don't want to...
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They really don't want to. http://oddworldlibrary.net/toe/FAQ#W...echanical_legs
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I remember something about this. A glukkon likes to look good and would never be seen with mechanical bionics.

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Perhaps Maggie just produces cripple children. Thalidomide.
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Wouldn't this take thousands of years of evolution anyway. It's not just the glukkons btw, native Oldgers walk on their hands.
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I believe that the design that we refer to as 'Oldgers' was actually an early design for Glukkons, rather than a design for Early Glukkons. Best not make too many assumptions about how the Glukkons used to look from that one picture.
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Also, what has been depicted in concept art doesn’t always reflect finalized canon.
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Says who?
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They aren't standing on their hands in the drawing, at least not the one I pointed out. What drawing are you looking at?
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The one I was referring to was this one:



They're similar enough to Glukkons as we know them to assume they're standing on their hands. But, as I said, these aren't a design of Glukkons as they were, but as they might have been if AO's story had developed differently.
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Oh, I was referring to the design with four arms and the two wing-like capes. It was a very early design, if I recall. I considered that the closest model to Glukkons as they were.
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Hmm, I think Sekto is referring to the Oldger design that's on page 27 of the art book. Its design is very similar to the Chronicler's, however.
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Oh I see. It's been a while since I looked at the book, so I'd forgotten that one. It's labelled 'Munch' and says that the creature is a more advanced relative to the Oldger. That probably is equivalent to the way that we now regard Glukkons and Octigi as being related races.

The photo I posted above of the old design for Glukkons is labeled 'Ociti Priest', so it's probably from a very early design stage. Opposite it (p62) is the only sketch I can find that's labeled 'Oldger'; it looks like a Glukkon with a beard. He's wearing clothing, so it's impossible to tell if they had already determined back then that they walk on their hands; no arms are visible though, so it seems likely.
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Yeh, Olds designed it and named it after himself, They where to appear in AO but also MO but then, MO was going to be a lot more expanded, as I believe was AO when you look at the book and see how things where going to be so different.
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Yeah, looking at it now it looks very similar to a Chronicler. Same legs, the four arms. The captioning by Olds clearly states however that it was not originally meant to be a Chronicler, so I guess they just recycled the design.
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Here's a little thought which I have been pondering, and don't think anybody has discussed. Here it is: look at your average Glukkon. Weak. Pretty defenseless. Probably got lung problems. So, how on earth does this creature manage to get those big, tough Sligs to follow them? How do they manage it? I mean, without the sligs, they are nothing. Surely it should be the Sligs calling the shots?

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Easy! Glukkons have legs and money and sligs have arms and baddass attitude, plus glukkons provide mechanical legs for every sligs wich is a bonus for the sligs! mistery solved!

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I think Lorne had the mind of a child when he created oddworld, he was like:"Oh dude let's make this character legless...oh dude make this character armless...man, make this character have 4 fingers, NO! 3 fingers!...GREAT!We're done..let the money pour!"

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Speakıng of Greeters I lıke the ın-game ınfo about them. That one about helpıng the tourısts, and even shockıng them to death. And heres total OffTopıc: I wonder why theres ınfo about turısts (eg. Aslıks tourıst tıp). Are there any of them? And what kında of specıes are they? Glukkons? Vykers? Others?
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