Oddworld Questions & Answers VI -

Jordan · #**481** 06-27-2007, 11:14 PM

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Oh. When I watched the 'Captured by Outlaws' video it showed on his operation papers his legs seperate from his body. I thought he was gettig his legs attached. Not removed.

Stupid me.

Wasn't he getting his back two legs removed so no one hunted him down for being a Steef? I'm not so sure, I haven't played SW in ages.

***Nate*** · #**482** 06-28-2007, 12:50 AM

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2) @ Jordan_Boi/AbeX300: Alf claims to be the Mudokon in MO who gave Abe the 'encouragement pat' that helped the messiah go down the big well.

He's also the one in the AE opening in the desert that starts off saying "Abe, you're the greatest" then spends the rest of the hike complaining.

Jordan · #**483** 06-28-2007, 03:21 AM

I forgot how much Alf appears. I wish he had some sort of thing that made him different from the other Muds.

used:) · #**484** 06-28-2007, 05:42 AM

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He's also the one in the AE opening in the desert that starts off saying "Abe, you're the greatest" then spends the rest of the hike complaining.

I feel lame for going out on such a small aspect, but wasn't Alf's voice the Donald Duck-ish/Master Shake-ish one and not the high pitched screetchy one that you said it was?

Jordan · #**485** 06-28-2007, 07:02 AM

I noticed he had a lisp. I love his voice, it's so different from the other muds.

***Nate*** · #**486** 06-28-2007, 07:32 AM

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I feel lame for going out on such a small aspect, but wasn't Alf's voice the Donald Duck-ish/Master Shake-ish one and not the high pitched screetchy one that you said it was?

Huh? Talk to me about dialog, not vague descriptions of voices.

Alex2405 · #**487** 06-28-2007, 08:08 AM

What did he mean?

Zerox · #**488** 06-28-2007, 09:52 AM

What the hell is that meant to mean, Alex?

P. 230: I think everyone assumed they had two legs...good point, though. I think the extra foot sorta shows this it would have two legs, unless it just has two large toes...gah...I think they're meant to have two, though, and it looks more like two seperate shoes/feet, rather than a single one. Just a bad angle. I also not that a creature rather similar to a Chronicler is on page 27, it is in a similar pose, is little muscled, has a cape in the same way and 4 arms. Maybe this is what developed into the Chronicler? If so, it has two legs.
Also, is that a leaf poking out of the Chronicler's hat? Or whut?

P. 26: Way to muscled for a Slig, it has 4 eyes, and the mouth is wrong. I suppose it was an idea for another creature. Interestingly, though, for some reason it has an odd groove down it's back, and where would those tattoos have come from? Perhaps it would be like a herbiverous dog or something to the Mudokons. We can't be sure there, but an interesting concept.

Alf Shall Rise · #**489** 06-28-2007, 03:43 PM

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What the hell is that meant to mean, Alex?

P. 230: I think everyone assumed they had two legs...good point, though. I think the extra foot sorta shows this it would have two legs, unless it just has two large toes...gah...I think they're meant to have two, though, and it looks more like two seperate shoes/feet, rather than a single one. Just a bad angle. I also not that a creature rather similar to a Chronicler is on page 27, it is in a similar pose, is little muscled, has a cape in the same way and 4 arms. Maybe this is what developed into the Chronicler? If so, it has two legs.
Also, is that a leaf poking out of the Chronicler's hat? Or whut?

P. 26: Way to muscled for a Slig, it has 4 eyes, and the mouth is wrong. I suppose it was an idea for another creature. Interestingly, though, for some reason it has an odd groove down it's back, and where would those tattoos have come from? Perhaps it would be like a herbiverous dog or something to the Mudokons. We can't be sure there, but an interesting concept.

Thanks a bunch. And I just noticed the leaf thing. What the hell is it? Maybe his hat is magical and that's a leg of a new creature! Or I could be wrong.

***Nate*** · #**490** 06-28-2007, 05:30 PM

Taking a look at p260, I'm pretty sure the Chronicler only has one leg with a cleft foot. The whatchamacallit strap that holds his socks up looks definately like it's going around a single, whole leg rather than one of two. Also, remember that that picture is a production design to show what a character looks like - the designer wouldn't intentionally make it misleading.

Alex2405 · #**491** 06-29-2007, 04:20 AM

I think you are right, Nate!

Zerox · #**492** 06-29-2007, 10:19 AM

You have a point, Nate...I just find it hard to imagine it hopping around, trying to look dignified like a laywer.

It's hardly a convincing pose to show if it has one leg, either, if it has such a cleft foot like that, otherwise we wouldn't be confused like this in the first place.. Maybe we should send an email somepoint to...what was it, help@oddworld.com or whatever it was? Obviously with a few other questions with it, but it would really help a bunch with questions such as these that are generally hard to answer, because there's no official info other than awkwardly posed images or whatever.

Zerox · #**493** 06-30-2007, 05:05 AM

Sorry this is a double post, but this a massive theory I came up with. Well, not that massive, but intriqueing nonetheless.

I had a look at the colour wheel and compared it to Rupturefarms products. Opposite of green is red. The Scrab Cakes poster uses a green Scrab, and real Scrabs are red. A similar thing happens with Paramite Pies. Real Paramites are a sortof blueish grey colour. Opposite of a more grey-blue shade (looking at a more detailed colour wheel, here: http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~psyc351/...olorWheel2.jpg) is orange, which was used for the Paramite Pies poster. Could it be that, since the Meech Munchies packet is red, the opposite is green? Could Meeches have been green? A far fetched thought, maybe, but the way it adds up is interesting, and if this is the way oddworld Inahbitants decided the colours for their posters...

Also, could someone verify what the questions to OWI email was? It was in a thread a while ago, but all the old threads keep being deleted for some reason. Which is bad. And such. I want to ask them what colour Meeches were going to be (or are).

***Nate*** · #**494** 06-30-2007, 07:23 AM

Look at the bottom of the forum at the Display Options. Change the 'From The'' box to display more threads than ones from the last month.

The only threads we delete are the ones that are pure spam.

Zerox · #**495** 06-30-2007, 07:27 AM

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Look at the bottom of the forum at the Display Options. Change the 'From The'' box to display more threads than ones from the last month.

The only threads we delete are the ones that are pure spam.

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*beats self*

EDIT: I still can't seem to find what the exact email address was, I remember the thread, and it worked. Does anyone else remember what it was? I think it may have just been help@oddworld.com, but I don't know for sure.

I must ask them for the colour of Meeches and whether Chroniclers have 1 or 2 legs. Maybe some other stuff while I'm at it.

Jordan · #**496** 06-30-2007, 11:27 AM

Interesting find Zerox, OWI have been clever with this.
Also, I think it's info@oddworld.com.

Zerox · #**497** 07-01-2007, 12:48 AM

Thx, I'll try it and tell you what the reply is (provided I get one).

Jordan · #**498** 07-01-2007, 05:12 AM

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Thx, I'll try it and tell you what the reply is (provided I get one).

Well when I sent them an email about a month or two ago, they replied and said they were still there. So you should get an email back in a couple of days.

Munch's Master · #**499** 07-01-2007, 11:32 AM

Probably an obvious answer, but: what is the creature on the face monitor of the Shrink? It looks facially like a Mudokon/ one of the Weirdos, but the bio on the Oddworld site says it is Vykker AI. Which is it?

used:) · #**500** 07-01-2007, 11:49 AM

I think it's Mudokon, but it probably changes its face depending on the patient, or because the Shrinks normally tend to Sam, their Mudokon faces may be permanent for practicality.

moxco · #**501** 07-02-2007, 03:25 AM

One question. Does OWI still send out Christmas cards?

***Nate*** · #**502** 07-02-2007, 05:15 AM

There hasn't been one since before Stranger came out.

Zerox · #**503** 07-02-2007, 11:27 AM

Alright guys, here is the answer I got:

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Hi Fred,

Okay. I’ll answer your questions as best I can.

Chroniclers have two legs.

Meeches were originally drawn and painted as being fairly green. But when Oddworld actually had packs of Meeches running in the Abe’s Oddysee game, they were more brown with redish stripes across their back in a dinosaur/raptor like fashion. Unfortunately, these were cut from the game before release so the fans never got to see them. They were very cool as many of them would be on screen at once and they felt like a pack of wild animals. Someday Oddworld hopes to show our fans how these would act in a game.

Typically, Oddworld designers would make the colors of a natural character to be the opposite color of the backgrounds that it lived within… all in effort to make a better read for the gamer.

Veru reassuring to see they appear to still be going (with hopes of Meeches being seen in game someday). Also, I'm rather surprised at how much info I was given on the Meeches. My hunch on them being green was at the very least partly correct! Yay!

Ha, Chroniclers do have two legs :P

Jordan · #**504** 07-02-2007, 01:09 PM

Thanks for posting the answer Zerox! I like the part about them saying they want to show what they'll be like in-game. It shows lots of hope!

Zozo the Zrilufet · #**505** 07-03-2007, 12:22 AM

Lol, Zerox's name is Fred.

***Xavier*** · #**506** 07-03-2007, 04:35 AM

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Chroniclers have two legs.

wow this is surprising!

maybe they changed the design

***Wil*** · #**507** 07-03-2007, 09:58 AM

They must have. The Chronicler concepts (including an earlier one that has since been lost) both showed them with a singular leg.

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Probably an obvious answer, but: what is the creature on the face monitor of the Shrink? It looks facially like a Mudokon/ one of the Weirdos, but the bio on the Oddworld site says it is Vykker AI. Which is it?

Its artificial intelligence is made by the Vykkers. Its face is clearly Mudokon in the ‘Guardian Angel’ video. I imagine its face changes to suit the occasion/company.

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I think it's Mudokon, but it probably changes its face depending on the patient, or because the Shrinks normally tend to Sam, their Mudokon faces may be permanent for practicality.

The Shrink that confronts Abe isn’t the same one that tends to Sam. They don’t ship those things around, you know. It’s cheaper to chuck ’em out when they’re not needed and build new ones where they’re needed.

Zerox · #**508** 07-03-2007, 11:33 AM

Plus Sam has multiple Shrinks attending to her. They want freedom, c'ause they hate her.

***Wil*** · #**509** 07-03-2007, 02:13 PM

That’s only in a production painting. Details could have changed. Then again, the description of the Shrink was quickly removed, and could also have changed. We likely can’t be certain of the canon until the Munch’s Oddysee film.

Slaveless · #**510** 07-03-2007, 03:45 PM

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They must have. The Chronicler concepts (including an earlier one that has since been lost) both showed them with a singular leg.

Actually, you can vaguely see the two legs on the Chronicler.

The first way to tell is just by looking at the strange design. The Chronicler would have a rather odd way of moving that does not seem logical if it had one leg. The knee cap is pointing forward, much like our own. Now, I have tried to move in such a way and it does not seem very fitting. They could move like Abe (in his own games, excluding MO), where you jump and find your balance. I can't imagine how a species design is live like that. The species would be doomed due to its vuneribility and slow movement. It also could take short jumps, where you move a little forward and jump more in the air. That takes a long time to get anywhere on land. Of course, if the Chronicler lived behind a desk, I could see how they would survive. Underwater, maybe, but still. Chroniclers who seem to be on land now, had the ability to grow another pair of arms, why not another leg? If the Chroniclers had one leg in the design shown in the The Art of Oddworld Inhabitants: 1994-2004, I couldn't see too much logic.

Also, if you looked at the shadow of the Chroniclers design, you see a seperation between the two legs around the knee cap area.