New Oddworld game published by Majesco! -

Kimon · #**331** 03-24-2005, 08:39 AM

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doesnt anyone remember this? my point is, people believed that, and this sounds nothing like oddworld. im sure its a lie.

Yeah, the link to that thread is in my sig with a caption that says 'How foolish we all were.' That turned out to be true. The article was talking about the beginning stages for the development of Stranger.

erwinraaben55 · #**332** 03-24-2005, 09:42 AM

And did you notice something funny about the second post in that thread? Xavier didn't know it was about stranger, right? but thought it was STRANGE

. Funny coincidence, or was it ment to be strange, and Xavier just picked the right word for it?

Oddish · #**333** 03-24-2005, 10:52 AM

This may be a bit off topic... and it probably been posted before...

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EA renamed Oddworld: Stranger to Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath in an attempt to better market it, but it's unknown how well the game sold. Presumably not very well.

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MojoMan220 · #**334** 03-24-2005, 11:33 AM

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Fangus looks great. And posters who say he looks NOTHING like Stranger are... Let's just say that would be like saying Hellen Hunt and Jodie Foster don't look similiar.

I'll admit there are some small similarites, but nothing that would make a person mistake the two for the same character. The hands, the skin color, and maybe the face (although hidden in shadow) could be compared, but the body shape and clothing are completely diferent. Once again, I think the two species could be related much like glukkuns and octigis.

-Aquacid- · #**335** 03-24-2005, 11:53 AM

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And rightly so! It was truth - almost.

no no, nope. there was no monkey man with a psychic connection to his boat, in which you transported goods down rivers. the only thing that was correct was that he had a boat, and not a psychic one either.

tentacle_orgy · #**336** 03-24-2005, 12:05 PM

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no no, nope. there was no monkey man with a psychic connection to his boat, in which you transported goods down rivers. the only thing that was correct was that he had a boat, and not a psychic one either.

You are an idiot...That was one of the original concepts for Stranger...Just because the final product didn't look like that, doesn't mean that the magazine article was wrong...They only posted the info that they had, which was just an early idea for Stranger...

_GrubHunter_ · #**337** 03-24-2005, 12:14 PM

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there was no monkey man

No? So, tell me, who is Stranger huh? He have a Gorilla hands.

Ok everybody! Stop this OFF-Topic! okay?

Dipstikk · #**338** 03-24-2005, 12:16 PM

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You are an idiot...

Gonna tell you this once.
STOP BELITTLING PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM. We already have a few people here who do, we don't need someone else acting that way. For your own sake, stop acting like a jerk. Please, I'm asking you nicely. And these guys'll tell you, I don't do that often.

On another note: I really like the idea for Fangus. I just wish they'd change the design. People, he looks like an anthro cougar! They can make a buff male mammalian character without resorting to anthropomorphism. True, Stranger was sort of a four-way anthro, but he at least looked alien. This guy looks like something you'd see in a DeviantART gallery (no offense to the DevArtists here). I know OWI can do better than this.
I know I'm being a hypocrit, what with Actra looking so much like an Anthro bat, but I'm not Oddworld Inhabitents. I've seen things from them that...blew my mind. And this...again, I like Fangus, just not his current design.

OWI, I'm begging you. PLEASE. Don't let Fangus become an anthro. Use that OWI mojo you have in such large amounts over there, and I know that Fangus can become something astounding.

tentacle_orgy · #**339** 03-24-2005, 12:37 PM

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Gonna tell you this once.
STOP BELITTLING PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM. We already have a few people here who do, we don't need someone else acting that way. For your own sake, stop acting like a jerk. Please, I'm asking you nicely. And these guys'll tell you, I don't do that often.

I was joking...I only said that because I knew you would read it and get on my case about it...You have a talent for that...

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OWI, I'm begging you. PLEASE. Don't let Fangus become an anthro. Use that OWI mojo you have in such large amounts over there, and I know that Fangus can become something astounding.

What's wrong with him being an anthro?...He looks pretty kickass to me, I don't know why everyone is complaining...

Dipstikk · #**340** 03-24-2005, 12:48 PM

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I was joking...I only said that because I knew you would read it and get on my case about it...You have a talent for that...

Sure you were.

You expect me to believe that?
Wait, don't answer. That's a rhetorical question.
And the only talent I bring to this forum is my art. That and my sparkling wit. I don't enjoy redirecting people.

Look, just stop, okay? You haven't been around long enough to gain jerk rights.

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What's wrong with him being an anthro?...He looks pretty kickass to me, I don't know why everyone is complaining...

Think about it. Do cougars live on Oddworld? Sure, they have bats and bees, but a cougar with a twelve-foot pec span? That's taking the whole "familiar animals that look slightly different" angle a bit too far.
What I'm saying is that Oddworld has a knack for making things look out of the ordinary, and this design for Fangus looks way too...familiar. People will recognise that he's influenced by a cat, and call him "that cougar dude from Oddworld."
See, this is why I miss Farzad. He would have given a whole new look to Fangus.

tentacle_orgy · #**341** 03-24-2005, 01:44 PM

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See, this is why I miss Farzad. He would have given a whole new look to Fangus.

Steven Olds could kick Farzad's ass...

Kimon · #**342** 03-24-2005, 05:02 PM

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Steven Olds could kick Farzad's ass...

Farzad is by far the BEST FRIGGIN ARTIST OWI has ever had. So don't make fun of him, cuz he kicks ass.

Oh, and Aquacid, despite his harshness, tentacle_orgy is right on this one. It was an early concept of Stranger.

Fuzzy · #**343** 03-24-2005, 11:54 PM

Eh, despite all the arguing going on here that's happening for no reason, I'd like to state my opinions.

Fangus looks like a kickass creature. But I would really prefer it if Oddworld went back to the scrawny heroes like Abe and Munch, rather than the stronger guys like Stranger. However... I liked the darker Oddworld games better than the current bunch [except SW, that's definitely my favourite of all 4.] so maybe this one will really float my boat.

As for the sheep... Maybe they follow him around. Could be like the Fuzzles in Munch's Oddysee. That'd be cool... Seeing rabid sheep rip the Industrials to pieces. Awesome.

CarboN · #**344** 03-25-2005, 02:07 AM

When I first heard of this game it sounded so awesome, the darkness and all, but the picture of fangus didn't quite get me the usual "wow-ie" feeling that new OW pics do.

I don't know would it be so nice to have sheep following him around too much... if they would be like fuzzles with Munch, it would be too MO-ish.

But I do hope OWI will do a MO bonus game after Fangus's and all, Munch is one of my favourite characters and it's a shame for so good character to have so dull game.. not that I didn't enjoy MO.

The Marching Mudokon · #**345** 03-25-2005, 03:22 AM

This is pretty exciting news, a game in the works already? They must of had the idea for Fangus for awhile for news to come out about so quickly. The game sounds interesting but how much of the information provided is actual hard evidence the magazine company has or is it just a rumour?

Esus · #**346** 03-25-2005, 04:38 AM

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See, this is why I miss Farzad. He would have given a whole new look to Fangus.

Just thought I'd add that people on the forums give more credit (of creature designs) than he actually did... Oh well.

***Wil*** · #**347** 03-25-2005, 06:48 AM

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It has some real-life animal characteristics, but come to think of it, Munch was the only one who didn't

Munch had elements of a catfish, a rabbit, a frog and a dolphin all rolled into one. It's the most compound creature OWI have ever come up with, but that doesn't in any way make him contrived. He was, in my personal own opinion, one of the last great character designs. MO may have brought us Vykkers and Interns, but we were also lumped with Fuzzles and Meeps. OSW had Stranger, and while he had a good design, it was nothing to celebrate.

I woke up this morning and spotted a Glukkon on a poster. I thought, “What the hell is that?” That's the honest truth. I look at a Clakker or a Grubb and I think, “Oh look, a fat chicken,” or, “Woah, didn't we all draw creatures like that when we were six?” Now we get, as Dipstikk puts it so aptly, an anthro cougar, and the problem with that, tentacle_orgy, is that Oddworld is already populated with fantastic, original, alien designs that use new shapes, new body structures and amazing attention to realism to produce a menagerie of practically believable, very understandable creatures that remain distinctly Oddworld. Fangus is a lion-Hulk. His flock are demonic sheep.

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Farzad is by far the BEST FRIGGIN ARTIST OWI has ever had. So don't make fun of him, cuz he kicks ass.

Firstly, no one was making fun our of him. Secondly, Steven Olds designed Mudokons, Glukkons, Scrabs and Paramites. Your opinion is your own, but anyone not bowing before Mr Olds deserves … I dunno: a pinch, maybe.

Apart from that, Dipstikk is quite right - everyone can stop getting rat-arsed at each other right now, or I'll go ape-shit.

Kimon · #**348** 03-25-2005, 07:41 AM

Sorry, about that Max. I really like Steven Olds, he's a great designer and I like his work a lot. It's just that I think Farzad brought life to characters that he drew, which the others couldn't seem to do. I really loved that in his art.

As for the Munch design, what I was talking about is that when you look at him you, wouldn't think, "Oh, look, it's a catfish-rabbit-dolphin-frog hybrid. Isn't that nice." He's the only one that you can say looks totally alien, at least in my opinion.

P.S. Sorry for any flaming I've done on this thread, emotions were high.

***Wil*** · #**349** 03-25-2005, 08:01 AM

Hmmm, what about Vykkers? What creatures do you see in them? Or Interns, for that matter? They both look quite alien to me, especially the former.

Kimon · #**350** 03-25-2005, 08:29 AM

That's true, I was just thinking about the main characters.

Vykkers and Interns are indeed alien, as are Scrabs and especially Paramites. I was excluding an entire aspect of Oddworld, sorry if that was confusing.

Angalok · #**351** 03-25-2005, 09:56 AM

I'm a bit dismayed at how quick you folks are to lose your faith in the Inhabitants. You see one CONCEPT drawing, mind you, and all flip out about how Oddworld has abandoned its legacy of great characters. Are three great protagonists not enough to prove to you that their heroes always have the goods? While my heart didn't leap into my throat upon seeing Fangus, I have confidence in Lorne and crew to make any creature a compelling character with a story to tell. Plus, Oddworld always likes to make their heroes unexpected and unlikely, and at this point where they've all been scrawny, what's more unexpected than a big brute?

I think that the key point in the Fangus article is that he's racing against the madness of rabies. Given that he's a shepherd, I don't think that Fangus starts out as some unholy badass. If he did, he'd have been a soldier or a bounty hunter, not a shepherd. With that kind of quiet, rural job, I think it makes sense that he's a big gentle guy, muscular because of a hard life, and that the story shows the psychological horror of the disease stripping away his niceness and making him commit violence that horrifies even himself. That's just one theory, but there are a host of plot-lines that can make this big lion guy a sympathetic character, and I'm sure Oddworld has written a doozie.

Also, don't instantly assume that that drawing is the final version of the character, nor that it even shows him entirely. I mean, you couldn't tell the Stranger's true nature from the early drawings of him. Plus, do you really think Oddworld would choose so simple a design route as a big panther-man? Give them some credit. This Fangus guy, if he's the real deal, is going to be a good character, or they wouldn't be making a game about him. These people made Abe's Oddysee, they made Stranger's Wrath, they can make anything.

Cyber-Slig · #**352** 03-25-2005, 10:41 AM

But it's the things he shepherding, some little frail creature, wouldn't become a shepherd to look after those things. He may not be violent, but they would need someone fearless, or strong enough to look after those things.

Cort · #**353** 03-25-2005, 11:24 AM

I'm a bit razzled by this one I'm affraid. I'm not saying I don't like the looks of it, because I do. The concept of herding animals about to do your bidding sounds very unique, unique enough to be Oddworld. An expantion of sorts on Munch's Fuzzles would probably be a good way of looking at the potential. Even the Fangus design is great, an off-shot from OI's usual, but who's to say they can't do different and still Odd?

But what really gets me is this, why haven't any of the major game sites picked up on this yet? I'd expect IGN to be on it quick, quicker in fact then Game Informer, at the very least X-Box Magazine should have had something to say on it. The fact that it's unannounced news everywhere but an April issue of GI just has me all doubtful. I wouldn't mind seeing what OI plans to do with it if it is in fact their plan, but until someone else covers it, or next month's GI comes in I'm really sceptical about it's reality.

MojoMan220 · #**354** 03-25-2005, 03:34 PM

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OSW had Stranger, and while he had a good design, it was nothing to celebrate.

I woke up this morning and spotted a Glukkon on a poster. I thought, “What the hell is that?” That's the honest truth. I look at a Clakker or a Grubb and I think, “Oh look, a fat chicken,” or, “Woah, didn't we all draw creatures like that when we were six?” Now we get, as Dipstikk puts it so aptly, an anthro cougar, and the problem with that, tentacle_orgy, is that Oddworld is already populated with fantastic, original, alien designs that use new shapes, new body structures and amazing attention to realism to produce a menagerie of practically believable, very understandable creatures that remain distinctly Oddworld. Fangus is a lion-Hulk. His flock are demonic sheep.

Well, I guess we all have our own opinions, but I think Stranger is one of the very best designs OWI has created. I mean, I like alien creatures as much as the next, but I really couldn't give a rat's ass about the fate of a vykker or intern. You can't really relate to them. I'm a huge Clint Eastwood fan, so I may be more intrigued then others may be.

I understand that we have seen chickens before in our world, but they deserve a little credit, for putting a whole lot of character into those guys. Once again, they are more memorable, personality wise then say a paramite.

I think OWI doesn't want to be seen as a company that only creates weired aliens. They may need to open up to a bigger audience if they want to fufill their vision.

And just in my opinion, I think Fangus (real or not), looks pretty sweet. We need to give them a chance, it's not like we know any better, it's just a different view.

MojoMan220 · #**355** 03-25-2005, 04:05 PM

Confirmation by IGN:

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Get Ready to Revisit Oddworld
A strange new character takes the series into darker territory.
by David Clayman
March 25, 2005 - Developers Oddworld Inhabitants have announced they are working on a follow-up to this year's solid action-adventure Oddworld Stranger's Wrath. In the April issue of Game Informer the team discussed their plans for the advancement of the series. It looks as though the game will have a decidedly darker feel and might even receive a Mature rating from the ESRB.

The next game stars a new protagonist named Fangus. He's a Shepard who tends to his flock until they are attacked by Oddworld invaders. The gameplay will be similar to that of Stranger with a combination of first- and third-person shooting action. It will also feature the same type of interactive townspeople and destructible environments. As Fangus does battle with the invaders he's also suffering from rabies, which will eventually drive him insane. The Stranger in the last game captured critters to use as ammo and its possible that Fangus will do something similar with the creatures in his flock.

Unlike Stranger's Wrath the game is not being published by EA and IGN's sources tell us that the title may not be handled by Majesco for much longer either. While the game reportedly has mature subject matter, Oddworld Inhabitants have consistently delivered high-quality products in the past and if need be, it shouldn't be difficult for them to find a new publisher. Barring complications, the game is scheduled to be released some time next year. Stick with IGN for more info on this game as it becomes available.

IGN.com

UnforgivingEdges · #**356** 03-25-2005, 06:23 PM

Tell you guys what, I'll email OWI's marketing coordinator and get firsthand confirmation from the company itself if the game is real or not.

***Alcar*** · #**357** 03-25-2005, 06:58 PM

Where did IGN get there information from? It sounds like they pieced it together from everything else we've already heard.

Alcar...

Angalok · #**358** 03-25-2005, 07:18 PM

Cyber-Slig: "But it's the things he shepherding, some little frail creature, wouldn't become a shepherd to look after those things. He may not be violent, but they would need someone fearless, or strong enough to look after those things."

I had always assumed that the sheep began as normal herd creatures, and that their vicious state is due to the same rabies that afflicts Fangus. If he is actually herding some kind of naturally monstrous flock, that would make his Hulk-esque phsyique make even more sense. It takes a big guy to rangle them hell-sheep!

Kimon · #**359** 03-25-2005, 07:21 PM

Man, I hope it's true. Although it does seem to be a piecemeal of everything we've already seen, it looks official, and IGN is generally a trustworthy source.

Biggy Bro Slig · #**360** 03-25-2005, 11:25 PM

Why don't Oddworld stick with the characters they've got?