This is an Ugly question but..

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #1 10-29-2001, 11:44 PM

Okay, I know that Mudokons don't have sexual organs. what about Vykkers? Glukkons? Is every oddworld creature asexual? How can that be because then who made same and stuff. In order to have sam, the mudokon queen, they had to produce something or something.

RoN_Rancor · #2 10-29-2001, 11:53 PM

I don't know about Vykkers, but the glukkons have a queen because I've seen a concept pic of it. As for Sam, she was probably born a female or raised to become one like a bee. It might be that every rare once in a while a female is born, or it could be like a bee. I'm pretty sure that queen bees start out as normal workers, but then are fed a lot of something that changes them into a queen. What I want to know is where are the males? There are probably males somewhere, and they probably look very different from the queens and the workers. They could be fierce strong warriors, or big lazy slobs that are killed when they are no longer needed (like bee drones). Of course, since this is Oddworld, it could be completely different...

Sl'askia · #3 10-29-2001, 11:53 PM

eh? barely got your question there pink. Remember many of Oddworlds species are based off of ants and termites in in terms of reproduction. At least...thats what we have been told.
I'm guessing that when the queen reaches old age she starts laying queen eggs...or the worker class feed hatchlings a special substance to turn them into queens. Of course...I am basing this theory off of ants and termites here and since this is Oddworld...I could be off...

[ October 29, 2001: Message edited by: Dragadon ]

***Xavier*** · #4 10-30-2001, 05:55 AM

Mudokons => have a queen
Glukkons => have a queen
Sligs => have a queen
Vykkers => they auto-reproduce themself
Gabbits => need a partner
Fleeches => are made by Vykkers

Elum (egs?)
Interns ?
Scrabs?
Paramites ?
Slogs?
Slurgs ?

I think it's all the organical stuff

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #5 10-30-2001, 06:44 PM

Oooh. In order to make sam, do you need a male and a female to have sex with each other right? How can they say that there are no mudokon females? Or maybe a terse explanation would be, maybe the radioactive mudokon pixies angry the males mudokon and he layed an egg!LOL

RoN_Rancor · #6 10-30-2001, 07:37 PM

Pink, What?

The queens are the females! And Xavier, I thought the gabbits had a queen too. Where did you find that info?

***Xavier*** · #7 10-30-2001, 07:47 PM

Logic if Munch can't procreate his race alone => he need a partner

But it can the gabbits have a queen (last egs => Gabbiar) but nothing is shure

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #8 10-30-2001, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by RoN_Rancor:
Pink, What? :confuzzled: The queens are the females! And Xavier, I thought the gabbits had a queen too. Where did you find that info?

Then what's this jibber jabber on there are no female mudokons? People are saying that there are no female mudokons because mudokons don't have any sex.

RoN_Rancor · #9 10-30-2001, 09:10 PM

Xavier, yeah that does make sense. I guess I always just took it for granted that one of the eggs in the can of gabbiar was or could become a queen.

Pink, I don't know where you read that. I know that the regular muds (abe and all the muds we have seen so far) have no sexual organs, and so are neither gender. I always figured that the queen was the female and that we just have not seen any males. There would probably be very few males, because if it is like bees than they would only need to mate once for the queen to reproduce for the rest of her life. I could be wrong though...

Sydney · #10 10-31-2001, 09:54 AM

As others have suggested, I think Mudokon reproduction is like bees, with a few alterations. Here's my theory:

Mudokons are assexual, they're genetically indentical. The only variations we see are a result of spooce (ie, the Tomahawkers). So I believe that whenever the Mudokons need a queen, they just feed a baby mud some royal jelly (spooce), causing it to develop into a queen. No kind of sexual reproduction is necesary.

Pure speculation of course, but that's what I think.

Teal · #11 10-31-2001, 11:41 AM

Hmm...

All members of a species being genetically indentical is a dangerous situation, I think to do with resistance to bugs etc...

Yeah, I'd go along with what most people have said... Im bees/ants, the queen is fertile and genetically female, and produces eggs throughout her life. Those eggs either go unfertilised, and turn into drones/workers - which are sterile females, I believe...? - or are fertilised by the males, usually soldiers, and then develop into fertile offspring. I'm not sure what happens with respect to the queen - I think the bit about royal jelly is right, if the young aren't fed royal jelly they become male, and if they are they develop into queens...

Simpler organisms usually reproduce asexually (like hydra, yeasts etc...) as it's more dangerous in terms of genetic diversity...

Okay, now I'm rambling. I think I just figured out where my biology textbook went - I must have ate it. Thought last night's pizza was a bit chewy, too...

***Xavier*** · #12 10-31-2001, 01:54 PM

does someone know how paramites or scrabs reproduce each others ?

Gluk Schmuck · #13 10-31-2001, 02:16 PM

i think paras and scrabs would have a reproductive system like humans because they're a more simple species than the others

***Xavier*** · #14 10-31-2001, 02:21 PM

hey cool, females scrabs and paramites...I want to see that.