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Pilot · #61 01-20-2009, 01:01 PM

You're right, comment withdrawn. That was too raunchy. The thread needs to be steered away from me. That's what needs to happen.

OANST, if you choose to wet yourself, please do it on a vinyl sofa.

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Also the law of Parsimony almost guarantees my being right, unless of course Religion is right.

Religion is right in its own light; its own self-contradicting fatal flaw being that it condemns. Actually, it is usually the religious officials that condemn via perspective and interpretation in sheer contrast to the whole God loves All.

But it's just drama. Too many things out there are trying to get you to feel bad about yourself for self-serving reasons. What utter nonsense.

Wings of Fire · #62 01-20-2009, 01:14 PM

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Religion is right in its own light

Which is wrong, moral subjectivism is a poor defense.

Pilot · #63 01-20-2009, 01:29 PM

What I am trying to say is that they have their ways to 'justify' themselves, just as anybody with an independent viewpoint can justify themselves. The actual 'means' may not make sense, but it does to them and anyone who believes them.

Just look... stories and so-called 'meaning' can be woven around just about anything to make it plausible. A religious advocate is something I am not; I just acknowledge that Jim-Bob and Mary-Jane (two figurative people) are going to find self justification in whatever they do whether I agree/disagree or can even make sense of their reasoning.

Is being homosexual 'justified'? Of course, we can find ways to justify ourselves but somebody against it can as well justify their viewpoint. This is the angle I approach 'religion is right in its own light.' (which by the way you took out of context in quoting me.) Some religious leaders simply justify the immorality of it because of their own interpretive viewpoint.

Bullet Magnet · #64 01-20-2009, 01:35 PM

I came by this recently.

OANST · #65 01-20-2009, 01:46 PM

That was kind of nice. I liked it.

Pilot · #66 01-20-2009, 01:56 PM

That was beautiful. Independent thinking, I love it.

Though I found their eyes quite disturbing....

Wings of Fire · #67 01-20-2009, 02:41 PM

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I came by this recently.

This beats Kastere's Mario song thing as the best thing on youtube, ever.

Christ that nearly made me cry.

Kimon · #68 01-20-2009, 07:44 PM

Awww... good video

Leto · #69 01-20-2009, 08:51 PM

90% hokey crap 10% enjoyment

Bullet Magnet · #70 01-20-2009, 09:51 PM

Believe me, I've seen every kind of response to it.

Strike Witch · #71 01-20-2009, 09:55 PM

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Believe me, I've seen every kind of response to it.

Can you make a blog entry for some of the more interesting ones? If there are any.

Juss' Curiass.

Bullet Magnet · #72 01-20-2009, 11:50 PM

Just Google the title and see the other places it has been posted.

skillyaslig · #73 01-27-2009, 03:09 AM

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Except certain beardy-wierdies, of course.

I'm afraid I'm turning in to a homophobe. I went in to a store yesterday to look at shirts and the shop assistant was a man in his mid-late 30's who checked every single box of stereotype fagness. When I asked his opinion of whether the shirts worked well with the pants I had previously bought, his response was "I think they're hot, but they'd be hotter on you..." I chose not to respond, thinking that he'd get the hint that I wasn't interested. One any level. Whatsoever. But he must have taken that as a signal to move on, even to the point of attempting a conversation with me whilst I was in the change room and standing on his tiptoes to peer over the door at me. (Thank goodness I was still fully dressed at that stage).

In the end, I ignored all his suggestions, bought the shirt I liked and ended up getting out of there as fast as I could with the nagging feeling like I needed a shower to wash the sleaze off. The strange thing is, I can't work out whether he's naturally like that or if he thinks it will actually help make a sale if he's sleazily complementary to the guys that come in.

Kinda old, but I felt the need to say this;
You should buy some GayAway Gum, then go back to that store. If that guy goes away, then he is gay. Or you could buy some other anti-gay stuff those hard-core God-worshipers make.

Bullet Magnet · #74 01-27-2009, 05:18 AM

I think you missed out a logical step somewhere there, skillyaslig.

stonetooth · #75 01-27-2009, 05:50 PM

okay, me and one of my friends got in a fight about this: are you born gay, or do you become gay randomly?

***Nate*** · #76 01-27-2009, 05:56 PM

I would say that there are certain factors that you are born with that makes it more likely you will become gay. These include genetics and the level of testosterone the fetus' brain was subjected to in the womb.
Then there are other factors that come in through life. These are far too complex to even begin to give examples.

In any case, my point is that assuming things have to be either nature OR nurture is a very simplistic way of looking at the world.

Bullet Magnet · #77 01-27-2009, 05:56 PM

Unless I'm very much mistaken, newborns do not exhibit a sexual orientation. If you mean whether people's sexualities predestined (presumably genetically or otherwise congenitally), the answer is we do not know. There are lots of interesting studies and correlations, but a incisive theory to unify and explain the evidence is not yet available.

Anonyman! · #78 01-27-2009, 06:25 PM

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okay, me and one of my friends got in a fight about this: are you born gay, or do you become gay randomly?

I wouldn't use the term randomly. It's not like a disease or a mental disorder. It's not caught.

stonetooth · #79 01-27-2009, 06:36 PM

well by randomly I mean the sudden urge to be with other men. But I think that you are as bullet magnet said "predestined", or that the feeling slowly rises to the surface, which is in some way kind of the same as having the sudden urge, i guess. And I don't beleive in bi sexuals either >_< I mean it's cool in all but it just confuses me how you can't choose one sex over the other.

***Nate*** · #80 01-27-2009, 06:51 PM

Well, I find myself capable of being attracted to both blondes and brunettes.

There is very little in human nature that is binary or discrete. Why should sexuality not exist on a continuum?

Translation: very little in human nature is black and white. Why should sexuality not involve greys? And many other colours as well.

Bullet Magnet · #81 01-27-2009, 07:13 PM

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well by randomly I mean the sudden urge to be with other men. But I think that you are as bullet magnet said "predestined", or that the feeling slowly rises to the surface, which is in some way kind of the same as having the sudden urge, i guess. And I don't beleive in bi sexuals either >_< I mean it's cool in all but it just confuses me how you can't choose one sex over the other.

Some people eschew both sexes while retaining a sex drive.

***Nate*** · #82 01-27-2009, 07:16 PM

Okay, I've wondered for a long time but now I have to ask: What do you think about when you wank, BM?

I'm hoping the answer is that you're reading magazine articles about string theory or somesuch

mitsur · #83 01-27-2009, 07:27 PM

Overstepping?

Bullet Magnet · #84 01-27-2009, 07:30 PM

Oxytocin, the taste of green and really thick wind.

Venks · #85 01-27-2009, 08:35 PM

I'm not quite sure where I fit in. I had a dominant mother and a missing father. Growing up I had two sisters and being very shy myself they were my only friends. So I played house with them and played with stuffed animals. I'm told the way I sit is very feminine like. I swear the only reason I don't cut my nails is because I'm lazy and the only reason they look so nice is because I was always told it was a bad habit to bite your nails.
Anyways when it comes to romance in a relationship I very much always wish I was in the female's position, but again I swear it's just cus I like romantic stuff and I'm just not the 'tough' kinda guy.

I've always been attracted to women and have had a couple really nice relationships with a few of them. I used to always be like, 'I have no problems with gayz as long as they don't hit on me lolol'. However one day in my silly sexual pursuits on xat.com/OWF I met Max. I had been hitting on girls all day, but hadn't been able to do anything with them so I was a bit frustrated. So anyways I decide to hit on Max for the lulz, but unlike the girls he wouldn't play with me any. Feeling that I was a sexual god I was determined to make Max want me. Instead I ended up finding myself wanting him more then anything. I'll never forget that pain. I was so embarrassed when I thought I had to yawn, but instead moaned very loudly.

Well I was very confused by these feelings thinking myself straight. I then thought I had just chosen to be 'gay', but I couldn't for the life of me find any other guys sexually interesting(this is before I met Joey boy of course). Not long after that I developed feelings for a very flirtatious girl at my school. I had managed to start crushing her real hard before I realized she wanted to be a dude. A lot of my friends began to tease me, calling me gay. I was always so quick to say that I wasn't gay like it was some sort of undesirable disease. My sister had been for a few years being very pro-gay(a fangirl who loves the Itachi x Sasuke pairing) and introduced me to a show called Queer as Folk. I felt so embarrassed renting the dvds, but I fell in love with the show and started to get a better understanding of how other people felt in similar situations. It was then that I believed I was pansexual. Sexually I was straight, but I knew there was more to a relationship then just sex and could be attracted to people of the same sex for different qualities.

The only thing that throws me off kilter is one day at school during spirit week there was a 'cross dressing' day. My sisters dressed up as guys and had an incredibly fun time helping me to look like a woman. I have to say the amount of attention I got was very surprising as normally most people didn't give me so much as a second glance. While my face was a dead give away, my body could easily be mistaken as a female's, and my characteristics matched. I wore a blond wig that covered most of my face to help disguise the fact I was a dude. I had been hit on by both girls and guys in my classes who were certain that I was a new student. My class mates in my Government class pointed out that I sat and acted like a woman with such ease they thought I had a lot of practice cross dressing, but it was my first and only time. Overall I had a blast doing it and am not sure exactly what that makes me.

Bullet Magnet · #86 01-27-2009, 08:41 PM

Spirit week?

Venks · #87 01-27-2009, 08:49 PM

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Spirit week?

Yeah. Has something to do with the football games at school, but I've never paid much attention to that. Spirit week is always a bunch of stupid things they ask us to do.
Like:
All blue day
Back to the past day
gender bender day
Tropical Islands day
Future day
Trick or Treat day
Twins day
Rebel day

I can't remember which 5 were the ones for my senior year in high school, but I know I only participated in gender bender day. Would of done Trick or Treat day and dressed as my Night Elf(Female ^^; ) character from WoW, but weapons aren't allowed in the school. What kind of warrior doesn't have a weapon?

Pilot · #88 01-27-2009, 09:13 PM

Venks, you sound hot.

I like guys who are mildly feminine, especially that display traits of both sexes which mesh together seamlessly into one, new type of a kind of 'third gender.'

I think that the way things are moving that the barriers between 'accepted' male and female traits, particularly 'sexual roles', are breaking down. This is exciting as I also see this as an important part of our own human maturity and evolution. Roles and stereotypes assigned per sex instead of by individual desire are becoming a thing of the past as we continue to 'grow up.'

Of course, I'll always advocate free individuality over preassigned roles of any kind.

skillyaslig · #89 01-28-2009, 12:45 AM

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I think you missed out a logical step somewhere there, skillyaslig.

It was a joke. I saw "GayAway Gum" being advertised. Me, I think it is one of the most stupidest things those hard-core Christians have come up with yet. I didn't actually mean to go out and buy it.

Nemo · #90 01-28-2009, 01:28 AM

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okay, me and one of my friends got in a fight about this: are you born gay, or do you become gay randomly?

I dislike both (common) sides of the argument. Preferences of any sort come from a mix of things, which I seperate into two general categories: Your environment and your brain.

Your upbringing, your life status, the people around you, and so on fall into the environment category.

Memories, your personality, your intelligence, how you react to your environment and so on fall into the brain category.

All of these react with eachother and determine which side gives you a stiffy or gets you wet.