Offing Jill.

[Cullen Heath]

I'm not saying they aren't stupid. I'm saying GET RID OF THAT GODDAMNED TITLE! A persons life is in severe danger and someone is making jokes about it.

I agree. Static please change this title, I even find it a bit offensive.


Man, I dont go in the "Offtopic" section very much, so I am a bit late.
Ohhh, Metroixer, you wanted to know who Jill was, right? Jill Carrol is a news reporter.

Anyway, I find this very sad, especially because we have 8 Iraqi prisoners, but Iraq only has one U.S. prisoner, so Bush will probably say something like this: "Well, they only have one of our's, and we have 8 of theirs, so I see no need to release 8 prisoners, just for the life of one!"
Yup, out president is the BEST!

I just hope that no death is involved in this and that Jill gets to see her family again.

[Nate]

As for why we don't just send in a Spec Ops team to rescue the hostage, I've always wondered that myself. However, the filthy bleeding-heart liberal in me would rather see diplomacy and negotiation than force and more bloodshed.

The problem is less to do with rescuing the captive so much as working out where the heck they're being kept. Which is why I say all foreigners working in Iraq should wear Martha Stewart-style ankle bracelets.

[Dark Elite_H2]

No it hasn't, so just imagine what would happen if their demands were actualy met?

What puzzles me is; Why not just move in on the kidnappers? The worst thing that can happen is the victim dying, which will happen anyway if they don't do anything. I wonder more about that then I do about why the US doesn't nagotiate with terrorists.

Well...I was gonna say somethin' like that. But there'd be more and more and MORE of the bloody bastards somewhere else, capturing helpless americans.
And we'd probably get there too late to save the hostage if we move in on the terrorists.

[Godlesswanderer]

As for why we don't just send in a Spec Ops team to rescue the hostage, I've always wondered that myself. However, the filthy bleeding-heart liberal in me would rather see diplomacy and negotiation than force and more bloodshed.

I think (I'm not too sure) the British government sent the SAS in for one of the hostage groups about a year ago. They got in there, stormed the location, killed every single one of the hostage takers and left with the hostages safe and intact. All within the space of under 5 minutes.

Although, I don't think it would be practical to get the SAS or any other special forces regiment out whenever someone takes a hostage.

Actually... I don't know why they don't do just that.

[OANST]

If they could find them, they would. The question is never about whether they will make an attempt to get the hostages out. The question is whether or not they can figure out where they are being held. Iraq is a big place with many, many buildings that could easily be hiding insurgents.

[SeaRex]

UPDATE. Jill Carroll released!

Here's a small update page put out by the company for which she works. After almost three months, Jill was voluntarily released with a small group of hostages. She reportedly was kept in very good condition, with plenty of food and clothing, and she was never threatened with beatings or other forms of torture.

And this, of course, means that I win the argument.

[Dave]

Yeah, sweet deal on the release.
She's an alumna from my school, so there was, like, tons and tons of flyers and petitions and shit going around. "Free Jill," "Save Jill," etc.
And, on nearly every flyer I saw, some wit had taken a pen and wrote "Bush" on it, changing the message to "Bush- Free Jill."
Didn't Bush's approval rating drop to, like, 30-something percent?
Lots of people think he's ****ing up big time.
It's topics like this that make me regret not giving two shits about politics.

[used:)]

I was thinking about updating the thread on her release this morning.

I am very glad that she was released though.

[Statikk HDM]

I can't beleive she was held for 3 months and released alive and unharmed. Absolutely incredible. She got far better treatment than U.S. captives!