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02-11-2004, 09:17 AM
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Bush: The Miseducation President

I mean, come on! 500 billion for the military in the budget while slashing important education programs and giving them 1/500th what the military gets? Not one program to help rebuild school infrastructure, which is some of the worst in the entire U.S.? His bullshit high-stakes testing No Child Gets a Second Chance eats up most of the paltry budget, too. I remember that education was Shrub's mantra, his red meat issue. He was the "compassionate conservative" he wouldn't leave a single child behind. Bullshit. Just as he owned up to the WMDs hes got own up to this. Because I"m going to call him on it. My mother, a hard-working schoolteacher who keeps getting screwed over by QEO and Bush's insane edicts will call him on. Down with Bush!
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02-11-2004, 09:25 AM
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I mean, come on! 500 billion for the military in the budget while slashing important education programs and giving them 1/500th what the military gets? Not one program to help rebuild school infrastructure, which is some of the worst in the entire U.S.? His bullshit high-stakes testing No Child Gets a Second Chance eats up most of the paltry budget, too. I remember that education was Shrub's mantra, his red meat issue. He was the "compassionate conservative" he wouldn't leave a single child behind. Bullshit. Just as he owned up to the WMDs hes got own up to this. Because I"m going to call him on it. My mother, a hard-working schoolteacher who keeps getting screwed over by QEO and Bush's insane edicts will call him on. Down with Bush!
Amen, what a complete Wanker, I do think that he is an awful leader, and is bordering on the verge of evil.

I do think that Britain's Political Slavery to the U.S is even worse, now if anything was actually not Bullshit from Love Actually it was the British Prime Ministers speech about how we should stop being Americas Lapdogs.
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02-11-2004, 09:28 AM
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well said hobo, very well said. I'm shocked how that came from you.
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02-11-2004, 10:12 AM
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I don't think England are the Merkins lapdogs.

But i do think Bush is a stain of the Semen variety. What moron donates billions of dollars in support of Abstinance but ignores sex education and shtuffs like that? He's a large moron of the Christian variety. I'm glad England is faltering in the Church shtuffs...
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My mother, a hard-working schoolteacher
My mom is a school teacher as well, and this "no child left behind" thing puts extra work on my poor mom when she allready has loads to do. She teaches middle school and the children literally do not want to learn. My mother will come home crying at times. Bush is doing nothing to help the children and is just torturing american teachers.

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02-11-2004, 12:38 PM
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My mom is a school teacher as well, and this "no child left behind" thing puts extra work on my poor mom when she allready has loads to do. She teaches middle school and the children literally do not want to learn. My mother will come home crying at times. Bush is doing nothing to help the children and is just torturing american teachers.

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Not to mention the teacher's wages in this country and even in Illinois are horrible, not to mention we dont have enough teachers and no wonder why look at the money we pay them.
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02-11-2004, 12:42 PM
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My mummy has an okay salary, but the health insurance is superb...I hear it is anyway.
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My mummy has an okay salary, but the health insurance is superb...I hear it is anyway.
Thats good to hear. From what Ive seen in our school system, there are many quality teachers that are just poorly paid, except some of the older ones who now get benefits. But its the reason why we are getting some crap teachers in the middle school level. Ive done well in all my High School Classes, because most of the teachers actually give a damn about teaching.
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The problem is why do Home owners have to pay increased taxes for better wages for teachers? Theres another issue.

There is other ways to pay teachers better wages than increases on the Home owner's expense. I pay taxes you don't I am sure, but you will when you get older guaranteed.

Now as a tax payer I don't want to pay more I want to save income for myself. I want to get into starting my own free lance Illustration business. I can't do that when my taxes are increased because the teachers are getting poor wages. If my taxes are increased I won't have enough money to support my business. The same goes for all people who want to do a small business. I am a firm believer in the American small business. The bottom line is we need some other way of raising better wages for teachers other than increasing tax rates on home owners. And there is other ways.
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02-11-2004, 03:18 PM
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The problem is why do Home owners have to pay increased taxes for better wages for teachers? Theres another issue.

There is other ways to pay teachers better wages than increases on the Home owner's expense. I pay taxes you don't I am sure, but you will when you get older guaranteed.

Now as a tax payer I don't want to pay more I want to save income for myself. I want to get into starting my own free lance Illustration business. I can't do that when my taxes are increased because the teachers are getting poor wages. If my taxes are increased I won't have enough money to support my business. The bottom line is we need some other way of raising better wages for teachers other than increasing tax rates on home owners. And there is other ways.

Well I would just rather pay still money if it guaranteed that we had some better teachers instead of making our youth who struggle feel stupid. In middle school, I had horrible math teachers who I could tell hated teaching, and I never learned anything I got low Bs to Bs in their classes. As soon as I got the highschool level Math clicked because I was able to understand the concepts because the teachers were willing to actually teach. Since Freshman year through this year Ive gotten Straight As in advanced mathematics, and such, and have a lot more confidence that I understand things than I ever did before.

Before I digressed a little bit there, I understand your reasoning with money from tax payers, but maybe instead of always pumping money into our military continualously we can take that money and work on making our education system a lot more accomdating to students, etc.
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Thats all economically great Al but you dident answer the question does it have to increase Home Owner's expense? You see what I am getting at? Its a two way road here. Home owners don't want to pay more and teachers want to make more than what they get. The issue here is how do u balance both sides out? And raising taxes is not the answer because one side will altimately not benefit from it. Small business owners will lose out. Is that fair for the small business owner? No it isn't. So what do you do to benefit both sides of this issue?

Well teachers can easily get better wages and the way to do that is to go back to school and become more educated. That altimatically raise their income. It may take a little longer but at least they are benefiting from it by being educated and not simply being paid more on the spot but still not being able to teach good. Ok so teachers who don't teach well or hate their jobs can easily change their profession. Why do they have to stick to teaching if they don't enjoy it? Or if he or she is a bad teacher and makes the youth feel stupid why can't the teacher go back to school and earn a masters degree and become more educated? And people who are underpaid can still go to college and earn their masters. There are community colleges out there that support people who don't get a good income and are going for a higher education to become better at what they do. We have the capability of doing these things. Thats a wounderful way of increaseing teacher's wages and keeping Home owners expenses down.

What I am saying is you can't support just one side and leave the other to nothing. You can't just give teachers better wages and expect them to teach better at the Home Owner's expense. And if the teacher doesn't love their job then they can find something else because if not they will be miserable for the rest of their lives.
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There are numerous solutions to this problem that won't cost most tax payers a dime. The U.S. could cut the military and give to education. We already spend more on development than the whole world spends on their military combined. My solution is simple: Cut 1 billion from R and D and use that to give teachers wages that don't suck, and siphon a billion from the general military to fix our countries shitty schools and textbooks. This isn't unreasonable. In fact, the military could easily go to a 300 billion dollar budget. This would wipe out the sustained debts from the Presidency's rash wars. Nobody pays any more taxes. Another solution is to reinstate the "death tax." No, this utterly benign tax that targets less than 1 percent of the American population will NOT cause small businesses to fold or screw your loved one's over when it comes to your will. The BILLIONS of dollars generated from this can be used on social projects such as education, Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. How about we just declare an end to our futile "war" on drugs and save hundreds of billions of dollars? Or the U.S. could stop giving tens of thousands of dollars to people who are already rich with our tax plan and divvy the windfall into taxes that effect everyone such as gas taxes, Social Security taxes, and payroll taxes and use the rest to help education? Put back the dividend tax, the estate tax, take away tax shelters, and end the over 200 billion dollar tide that is corporate welfare. But that would entail the President to stop playing grab ass with major companies, and I don't see that happening any time soon.
Edit: ParamiteAbe, my mother has a master's degree and is spending tons of hours getting re-certified, but her wages are still shit.
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I have just finished it this week and recommend that anyone interested in the state if the world, should read Stupid White Men by Michael Moore. It tells you many things including how Bush rigged the election and why white people will always remain racist towrads black people.
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