Oddworld ages compared to humans' ages.

One, Two, Middlesboogie · #1 01-10-2002, 02:40 PM

Don't know how helpful this is to you, but I'll post it anyway. Having a chart is quicker than calculating it yourself.
And yes, I do know that it would be easier to read in an html table and yes, I do know how to do that, but I can't be bothered right now. I'll do it later.

Assume the following:
The duration of an Oddworldian year equals an Earth year.
Human lifespan = 80 years
Mudokon lifespan = 40 years
Glukkon lifespan = 65 years
Slig lifespan = 20 years
Gabbit lifespan = 18 years
Vykker lifespan = 120 years

:

Human age    Corresponding Oddworldian age

         Mud  Glukk  Slig  Gabbit  Vykker   
5        2.5  4.06   1.25  1.125   7.5
10       5    8.1    2.5   2.25    15
15       7.5  12.2   3.75  3.375   2.5
18       9    14.6   4.5   4.05    27
21       10.5 17.06  5.25  4.725   31.5
25       12.5 20.3   6.25  5.625   37.5
30       15   24.3   7.5   6.75    45
40       20   32.5   10    9       60
50       25   40.6   12.5  11.25   75
60       30   48.75  15    13.5    90
70       35   56.8   17.5  15.75   105
80       40   65     20    18      120
90       45   73.1   22.5  20.25   135
100      50   81.25  25    22.5    150

***Xavier*** · #2 01-10-2002, 02:45 PM

very nice...
Intresting

But what is the point?

Teal · #3 01-10-2002, 02:51 PM

*thinks* I know Dan, Rach and I have all argued about this for aaaaages, but I reckon that certain species would age differently to humans - after all, nonfertile workers wouldn't need to go through puberty. *shrugs* I don't know, I just think they'd mature faster than the average human child. After all, we're not talking about earth, are we?

Danny · #4 01-10-2002, 06:50 PM

That is more or less how I'd worked it out... Of course, Teal would probably know better than me, since she works it out Biologically, whereas I work it out Mathematically [like you]...

[ January 10, 2002: Message edited by: Rettick ]

Steve · #5 01-10-2002, 07:08 PM

are they talking about years on earth or are all oddword peoples ages based on oddworld years.

Danny · #6 01-10-2002, 07:23 PM

She told us: She was assuming that Oddworld Years are the same as Human Years (since we have no basis for believeing otherwise). If Oddworld Years are different, then the table can still be used, but would simply give the resulting ages in Oddworld Years, instead of in Human Years...

paramiteabe · #7 01-11-2002, 12:09 AM

Oddworld years have to be longer than 12 months. Think Jupitor.

Sl'askia · #8 01-11-2002, 01:09 AM

just because the planet is bigger doesn't mean its yearly rotation around the sun is longer.

Lampion · #9 01-11-2002, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Dragadon:
just because the planet is bigger doesn't mean its yearly rotation around the sun is longer.

Yep, that's right. It depends on the mass of the Star being surrounded by the planet(bigger Star mass, faster orbital speed -smaller Star mass, slower orbital speed), and the distance of the planet from the Star(shorter distance, again, faster orbital speed - longer distance, slower orbital speed).

I think that the age comparison chart can only be used to give us an overall idea of Oddworld creatures development, the same way we use to compare our dogs age to a human age, for instance. this way you can easily tell that a 13 years old mudokon is a young adult creature, but a 13 years old gabbit is most certainly a decrepit, senile one

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Pilot · #10 01-11-2002, 03:22 AM

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*A year on Oddworld is generally the same as ours, as it exists in the same place as Earth, but only in another dimension. With this knowledge, also know that the ages of the different inhabitants of Oddworld are also similar to ours. If you study the native cultures of our world, their life spans tend to be about 40 years, thus the same as a Mudokon's. Do you understand?

Sl'askia · #11 01-11-2002, 09:03 PM

you have a point there Pilot. Modernized humans (like us) tend to live longer then those that live tribualy(sp)...like the south American indians. So I think it is more like this:

Mudokons = tribal humans (ie indians...not the ones that own casinos!)
Glukkons = modern humans (us)

Gluk Schmuck · #12 01-12-2002, 12:05 PM

I still don't see the point of dog years, it's just a silly idea to have one species using another planet's years while the rest of the Earthlings have an Earth year.
And I also don't see the point in the inhabitants of another planet all having different lengths of years, they should just all share a year length.

I can see different tribes using different measurements of time but a solar year is a solar year.

[ January 12, 2002: Message edited by: Gluk Schmuck ]

Steve · #13 01-12-2002, 01:46 PM

well other planets I can see but dog years do seem strange. dog years aren't nessicarilly 7 to ours but thats the average infact most breeds of dogs thier first year is equivelent to them reaching the age of 15. I'll shut up now

Danny · #14 01-12-2002, 08:14 PM

The idea that Oddworld's "People" all have similar metabolisms to Humans brings up a curious impilcation: Sligs must live in even poorer conditions than Mudokon Slaves, if their Lifespan is to be shorter...

Lantra · #15 01-13-2002, 12:47 AM

on the oddworld site it ses think dog years. this implies that one human year is equal to 7 oddworld years.

Pilot · #16 01-13-2002, 02:32 AM

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*That's a very astute implication, but the dog years remark refers to Gabbits only.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Interesting theory Rettick. One thought is that there are so many of them... and most of us have seen the conditions of the slig barracks. I wouldn't be suprised if there is much disease in and around the barracks due to the poor conditions.

Disgruntled Intern · #17 01-13-2002, 03:35 AM

while this is on and off topic, i HATE the idea of dog years..they just invented them to make it seem like dogs live longer.
if a dog has a 10 year lifespan, fine- don't try to factor in other numbers to make it's life seem longer..yeesh!

MrBoj · #18 01-13-2002, 11:18 PM

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Mudokons = tribal humans (ie indians...not the ones that own casinos!)
Glukkons = modern humans (us)

Dragadon, I would compare tribal mudokons to worker mudokons, and not mudokons to the gluks. What would the lifespan be then? AS for glukkons, before they became industrialized, what was their lifespan and lifestyle? It seems obvious that Glukkons were not always the money hungry tyrants they are now, how did they develop that way and not the mudokons? So many questions arise that pertain to lifespan.

The slig Barracks do seem to be ridden with disease and poor conditions, but what about the Bonewerkz, or the other factories? they can't be too better, can they? The first time I saw Bonewerkz, I immediately thought, "19th century factory." And what about polution, that must affect lifespan. Too many factors can be taken into account.

Teal · #19 01-14-2002, 09:37 AM

The whole point of "dog years" is not that dogs perceive years as differently to us, or that we want them to look like they live longer, it's to give us an idea of the equivalent age a dog would be if they were human. (Our dog is six, which I see as being early-middle age for her.)

I guess living conditions would have a significant impact on the overall longevity of a species (*has muddled her words but thinks she's getting the point across so leaves it*). But then, the whole idea of "dog years" brings up another point - different species age differently. So maybe with the shorter lifespans it's a case of something like "live fast, die young". Which I why I guess sligs would mature fast (after all, there'd be no puberty to have to worry about, as I think most are sterile...?).