Inter-racial relationships.

Statikk HDM · #1 06-17-2003, 09:40 PM

I would like to open up with a quote by Spike Lee
"When ever I see an inter-racial couple I shoot them one look:daggers." So what do you do when you see inter-racial couples? I am not some KKK Klansmen with the sheets on, bitching on Tiger Woods because he is 1/8 black and always wins tours. Now, I am kind of at a crossroads here because I wanna tell my friend Mike that the inter-racial doesn't "jive" with me. I don't know why it upsets me so much, but I HATE it when couples go all Jungle Fever, you know? I don't know hwat I should say, if anything. Everyone is kind of wallking on eggshells since we are in an almost 100 percent white and Lutheran community. I can't really rip on Mike that much because he is REALLY sensitive to what he percieves as racism and is a nose tackle on the football team. Needless to say, he could kick my ass in. What should I do?

Jacob · #2 06-18-2003, 12:12 AM

You really are a strange little man aren't you? This is why i'm glad i dont live in America, because you have cretins like Stadikk masturbating over some random shite that nobody even cares about. Who cares if somebody goes out with someone not of their race? Whats the big deal? I believe in the last topic your kind were saying how we were from Adam and Eve...and if thats true, the only difference is skin colour. So hush.

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I wanna tell my friend Mike that the inter-racial doesn't "jive" with me

Why? Why do you feel the need to? Why do you have to? Does it affect you? Why does it? Just because he's going out with a black woman doesn't mean you can say "I think you should go out with a white woman" because it really has nothing to do with you. Your opinion is completly shite compared to his happiness, god, get a life and if the Bible is going to do this to people i suggest it be burned...and all the Christians in the world moved to someplace like Siberia...out of the way and out of the decent peoples lives...(obviously you Christians would be sharing Siberia with alot of other persecutive religious factions, paedophiles, rapists and the like...so it should make decent Tv when y'all fight it out. Especially the religious peeps, cos there's nothing more amusing than to see peeps fight over who has the better imaginary friend.)

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I don't know why it upsets me so much, but I HATE it when couples go all Jungle Fever, you know?

If my kind can put up with your kinds harassment and the like i'm sure your kind can put up with somebody elses happiness...

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What should I do?

You should grow up. Like i said above, what does it matter? If you want to be a seamen stain about it then go ahead, but its no wonder nobody likes Christians or respect them if you all go off like this...i'm presuming your Christian however, since you have the mindset of one...

On a lighter note well done on making some thooper, controversial topics. Keep up the good work. Here's a cookie and a badge...

Joshy · #3 06-18-2003, 01:32 AM

We all are humans aren't we? *stares at Alcar*

MojoMan220 · #4 06-18-2003, 02:21 AM

You must be very narrow-minded... My stepmother is black and my father is white, so why don't you keep your thoughts to yourself.

Facsimile · #5 06-18-2003, 03:14 AM

Answer me this: Why should a white person not date a black person? People have problems if they cannot see past skin colour.

***Cloverfield*** · #6 06-18-2003, 06:52 AM

I actually share the same view as Jacob for once! *gasp*

I don't find a problem with it. If you love that person and they have different skin color or their eyes are different to yours, I don't see a big deal. Or even if you don't love them and you just want to go out w/ them ... they're all human. It's really old fashioned and also narrow minded (in these days) if you think you can't have a relationship w/ someone from another race.

Abe Babe...

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #7 07-11-2003, 03:51 PM

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This is why i'm glad i dont live in America, because you have cretins like Stadikk masturbating over some random shite that nobody even cares about.

Your ignorance amazes me Jacob. *tsk* I've been gone for along time and still haven't seen you changed at all. Kinda sad isn't it?

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Your opinion is completly shite compared to his happiness, god, get a life and if the Bible is going to do this to people i suggest it be burned...and all the Christians in the world moved to someplace like Siberia...out of the way and out of the decent peoples lives...(obviously you Christians would be sharing Siberia with alot of other persecutive religious factions, paedophiles, rapists and the like...so it should make decent Tv when y'all fight it out. Especially the religious peeps, cos there's nothing more amusing than to see peeps fight over who has the better imaginary friend.)

What are you talking about Jacob? Why do you have so much hate against christians? Why do you stereotype the bible and christians all the time? What's your deal, man? You have so much hate and still have so much growing up to do.

Anyways, There's nothing wrong with a black person going out with a white person or any other race. As long as you love the person, that's all that really matters. I have aunts, uncles, cousins, who are japanese, black, white, hispanic and so forth and I find it interesting because I am introduced to so much culture. It doesn't make you more superior if you were to date someone in your own race. Were all human. You cut me, I will bleed. It's the color that's different.

MrBoj · #8 07-11-2003, 06:20 PM

Hello pinky, remember me?

ok. Now, hehe, should I even go into this discussion? I mean, I should really just curse out Statikk and say he or she is a racist and accuse Statikk of infringing on my personal space and saying this place sucks.

Or maybe I shoud bad mouth Jacob because he obviously has problems voicing his opinion in a calm manner.

But I shall merely say this. If no one gets hurt, what difference does it make? We are humans. We, as a planet, as a group of people wou live togehter through mediums like the INTERNET and other forms of mass communication....we should all start to realize this. Look, think about this. YOu can run an entire business without ever meeting any other partner of you business in the flesh. That is how"advanced" we humans are, but some people still have trivial issues over skin color. Look Statikk, there is no reason to feel ashamed of your friend. That is ok to have inter-racial relationships. I really do not understand why that would not "jive" with you.

Majic · #9 07-11-2003, 06:24 PM

...whoa...Pinky's back...

I agree with Jacob, but instead of typing a bunch of crap here, jsut imagine what he said in a more polite tone coming from me.

Jacob · #10 07-11-2003, 07:47 PM

I must say after re-reading my post it was quite foul mouthed, thankfully i am trying to stop foul mouthedness...and refrain from swearing. Although i don't see how it was any different from Pinky's...it was just more...Bible-disliking fuelled and that is merely due to the fact that the Bible justifies many nasty and discriminatory things.

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I've been gone for along time and still haven't seen you changed at all. Kinda sad isn't it?

Not really, i don't see why you think that...

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Why do you stereotype the bible and christians all the time?

They stereotype themselves. Sure, there may be the small minority that are decent people and believe that we shouldn't judge people...but there's a vast majority that are nasty, vicious people who believe that just because they have a small book it gives them a right to state horrible things. Which is wrong.

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You have so much hate and still have so much growing up to do.

I don't have that much hate, just against the overly-religious and the the severly under-educated. The whole growing up thing, well, i agree a tiny bit. But i'm happy as i am, my views are mature, serious and respectable and thats all that matters really.

MrBoj · #11 07-11-2003, 10:59 PM

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But i'm happy as i am, my views are mature, serious and respectable and thats all that matters really.

this really can change at any time. You're views on life probably change and continue to change well into your adult years. I know you have well established ideas and outlooks on life, not saying that. Just they will change. It is almsot inevitable.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #12 07-12-2003, 01:47 AM

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But i'm happy as i am, my views are mature, serious and respectable and thats all that matters really.

That's good that your happy for your views, but I can't say they are serious and respectable if your bringing other people's views and beliefs down.

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Not really, i don't see why you think that...

there is an invention called the calendar...

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They stereotype themselves. Sure, there may be the small minority that are decent people and believe that we shouldn't judge people...but there's a vast majority that are nasty, vicious people who believe that just because they have a small book it gives them a right to state horrible things. Which is wrong.

Stereotype themselves? That doesn't make any sense. But it's not just christians who are judging people. What about some muslims and the Koran? Some non-christians, hindus, buddist, homosexuals, can be just as bad as christians and can judge also. Were all human and we all make mistakes. A vast majority of christians are not nasty. Maybe the ones you've meet are evil to you, does not mean that a "Vast majority" of them are nasty. How would you feel if I were to say a "Vast majority" of homosexuals are sick, perverted, and disgusting?

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Bible-disliking fuelled and that is merely due to the fact that the Bible justifies many nasty and discriminatory things.

Like I said Jacob, please give me evidence in the bible that justifys what your talking about. Give me a scripture, a verse, or something.

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I don't have that much hate, just against the overly-religious and the the severly under-educated

If you don't, then why get so defensive with Christians? You can't stop people from being overly-religious and don't worry about it because if you do, then your going to live a miserable life because your getting upset over something you can't control. You don't see me getting mad because people are gay. I have no control over it. I may not agree with it, but I don't go around, bad-mouthing gays because that's their choice to be gay. Not everyone is going to be saved, and me as a christian knows that. If I were to get mad over people who are atheist, I'm only hurting myself because the atheist is not going to care. In the past forums, I use to be such a witch and try to convert people to christianity but I've grown, and realized that it's not worth it and all I can do is just tell you about the bible if you want to listen. If you don't, then I will leave it at that. The defensive thing is something I expect from Rettict and GlukkicK (I think that's his name), not from you.

Jacob · #13 07-12-2003, 08:51 AM

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if your bringing other people's views and beliefs down.

I'm not. I'm just challenging them.

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there is an invention called the calendar...

Erm...yes. I don't realise what that has to do with my question...but...yes. (My question being why you think its sad i haven't changed).

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But it's not just christians who are judging people.

And i agree. I judge people. But i don't justify it with a book.

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A vast majority of christians are not nasty.

There was a news report in the paper a while ago about a gay guy who was beaten and killed because of his sexuality, now, i can't remember what country it was in (i don't think that it was England), but as the funeral was proceeding you got a bunch of religious people, Christians and Catholics i do believe, shouting insults such as "He's going to Hell" and the like. Now, if that's not nasty and disrespectful, i don't know what is. It seems to me as if Christians (aswell as others) do a whole lot of sinning in the name of their God. And sure, it may not be the vast majority. But don't the vast majority believe that homosexuality is a sin? And they will go to Hell? And thus is they met a homosexual they would distance themselves from him or her? If they were an employer they wouldn't give the job to a homosexual, that in itself is nasty. Because you are stopping a person from earning a living...

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Like I said Jacob, please give me evidence in the bible that justifys what your talking about. Give me a scripture, a verse, or something.

I don't read the Bible and thus wouldn't know where to start. Although over here in England there was a Cannon who was going to be ordained, he was homosexual, but he was the best man for the job and celebate. Suddenly there was a mass uproar about a homosexual Bishop, who, regardless of his ability to handle the job was persecuted against by the mass of the Christian church. Now, as the argument went on, the people against it were stating that he shouldn't become a Bishop because he was gay and no matter how good his credentials, it didn't change the fact homosexuality is a sin. In argument to this the other side stated that in certain parts of the Bible it stated that homosexuality wasn't a sin. Like i said, i don't read the Bible and so i can't really state whether the latter is true, but you should know...

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then why get so defensive with Christians?

I didn't realise i did. Whilst typing i am quite calm about this...not all irratic and shtuffs...

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I may not agree with it, but I don't go around, bad-mouthing gays because that's their choice to be gay.

Depends on what you mean by "bad-mouthing" them. Some may take offense to you stating its their choice to be gay, when everyone (aside from Christians and other such people it seems) knows that their sexuality is to do with the development in the womb...

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Not everyone is going to be saved

And there you go again. Like i said, that can be seen as offensive. I personally am not that fussed, because the way i see it whatever we believe in happens to us when we die, and thus if we have a wide range of beliefs, we get to choose. But homosexual Christians may be deeply offended by that. And wasn't Jesus an "all forgiving" kinda guy? So doesn't he have to save everyone...

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #14 07-13-2003, 02:36 AM

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I'm not. I'm just challenging them.

That's fine to challenge, but you can still make your language more clean and less offensive.

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And i agree. I judge people. But i don't justify it with a book.

You don't have to.

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There was a news report in the paper a while ago about a gay guy who was beaten and killed because of his sexuality, now, i can't remember what country it was in (i don't think that it was England), but as the funeral was proceeding you got a bunch of religious people, Christians and Catholics i do believe, shouting insults such as "He's going to Hell" and the like. Now, if that's not nasty and disrespectful, i don't know what is. It seems to me as if Christians (aswell as others) do a whole lot of sinning in the name of their God. And sure, it may not be the vast majority. But don't the vast majority believe that homosexuality is a sin? And they will go to Hell? And thus is they met a homosexual they would distance themselves from him or her? If they were an employer they wouldn't give the job to a homosexual, that in itself is nasty. Because you are stopping a person from earning a living...

How did you know if those people asked the christians "where do you think he's going? be honest." There are non-christians I know who are distant from homosexuals, because they feel it's nasty. It's not always christians.

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i don't know what is. It seems to me as if Christians (aswell as others) do a whole lot of sinning in the name of their God.

When you say "christians" Your stereotyping and thinking that all christians are the same. Well were not. I can see if you would of said, the christians I've seen or heard about, or some.Christian or non-christian, everyone sins at the same level. Christians are still going to sin because they are human, but, we have to try to do the things what christ did in order to go to heaven. We can never be like him, but we can come close to it. I mean, at the school shooting, a girl was killed because the guy asked her did she believe in Jesus Christ and she said yes and they killed her and they were NOT christians. Can you say we do the most sinning then? There was another killing like that in Texas too.

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I don't read the Bible and thus wouldn't know where to start. Although over here in England there was a Cannon who was going to be ordained, he was homosexual, but he was the best man for the job and celebate. Suddenly there was a mass uproar about a homosexual Bishop, who, regardless of his ability to handle the job was persecuted against by the mass of the Christian church. Now, as the argument went on, the people against it were stating that he shouldn't become a Bishop because he was gay and no matter how good his credentials, it didn't change the fact homosexuality is a sin. In argument to this the other side stated that in certain parts of the Bible it stated that homosexuality wasn't a sin. Like i said, i don't read the Bible and so i can't really state whether the latter is true, but you should know...

If you don't read the bible, then I suggest you to stop saying such blasphemy and false information which you say is written in the bible.
See your in Great Britian, and I'm in America where everyone is protected by the first amendemt which is freedom of speech, press, religion, etc. Your justifying your experiences in England. What about christians everywhere? We are not like that and I've seen christians who do hire homosexuals. They are those type of christians "You respect my beliefs, I will resepct yours." Also, we would want to hire a homosexual to be an example to him, and to show that not all christians are bad. We are gentle to homosexuals. Sometimes, they say that they hate being gay and they want to try to live right. When they are on their death bed, who do they run to? God, or a near by christian to pray for them. Also, the parts were it says homosexuality is not a sin is wrong it's in 1 corinthinans, romans, and leviticus. Also, Soddom and Ghomorrah was introduced with the first homosexuals and they were blided because they wanted to date the angels, who were guys.

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I didn't realise i did. Whilst typing i am quite calm about this...not all irratic and shtuffs...

SOme post yes, others no.[

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Depends on what you mean by "bad-mouthing" them. Some may take offense to you stating its their choice to be gay, when everyone (aside from Christians and other such people it seems) knows that their sexuality is to do with the development in the womb...

Saying that being gay is a choice, is not as offensive then saying christians are arrogant and such and that we are nasty. Everyone does not know that sexuality has something to do with the womb. My cousin was raped and she became gay. There are some basketball girls who grew up with men all their life and ended up gay. So, that proves that it's not.

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And there you go again. Like i said, that can be seen as offensive. I personally am not that fussed, because the way i see it whatever we believe in happens to us when we die, and thus if we have a wide range of beliefs, we get to choose. But homosexual Christians may be deeply offended by that. And wasn't Jesus an "all forgiving" kinda guy? So doesn't he have to save everyone...

If your not christian, they why would you care and why would you get offended if you don't believe in God in the first place. I mean, everyone has a free will to choose how they want to live their life. Homosexual Christians...deeply offended? When if they go to church and the minister reads a scripture about how homosexuality is a sin? They can get offended but the minister is going to care about the other people in the church also, not just the homosexual christians. Jesus, is and still is a forgiving guy and he did save everyone by dying for our sins. But the choice if yours. Jesus opens the doors for us to salvation. It's your job to walk into those doors. It's your job to make the choice if you want Jesus Christ as your savior, and believe that he saved you.

Disgruntled Intern · #15 07-13-2003, 03:49 PM

Pinky, shut the fuck up already.

Everyone knows you're the ignorant, bible thumping, loud mouthed member of the boards.

You left. Don't come back if all you plan on doing is getting into mind numbing arguements that can never be won.

Jacob, you also need to shut the fuck up. Everyone knows you're the blatantly gay, hard headed, problematic user of the boards. Don't get me wrong, it's just some times the same crap you spew forth over and over gets old. If you really want the debate the topic that badly, add her to your msn and do it there.

I'm locking this topic after Jacob replies. I refuse to see it turn into yet another 10 page flame war.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #16 07-13-2003, 08:51 PM

Intern, take out my name and Jacob's name in your last comment. You know what you just did? You actually fully described youself

because your the loud-mouth, ignorant jerk. What did you just call your post? who does not make a good mod. I don't know what is going on in your life to make you miserable, but you did not need to act like a jerk and take it out on us. Me and JAcob were having a good discussion and I was actually answering his questions, if you know how to read post you would of caught that.
Also, I left because I had alot of college work to do so you need to get your facts straight before you make such and ignorant comment.

MrBoj · #17 07-13-2003, 09:16 PM

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #18 07-13-2003, 09:23 PM

Of course

oddling · #19 07-14-2003, 12:08 AM

Umm.... *steps over Disgruntled and Pinkhaired fighting (Pinkhair's winning!!)* Well, I don't really have a problem with inter-racial relationships. If you're dumb enough to judge a person by how much skin pigment they have, then you should pull your head out of your butt, and buy a time machine because you're still in the 1800's. I see nothing wrong with inter racial relationships, it's just like an Italian person marrying a German person, except different colors. Would you have a problem with that? Oh, and before I forget, Disgruntled? You suck! >: P

Oddling l:c l

Facsimile · #20 07-14-2003, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by PinkHaired Mudokon CWR
because your the loud-mouth, ignorant jerk.

DI's not loud-mouthed or ignorant...

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who does not make a good mod.

Wow, that's a big call for someone who has been away since before I moved in here.

Disgruntled Intern · #21 07-15-2003, 02:24 AM

You're right.

I'm ignorant.

I'm loud mouthed.

I'm a jerk.

Jesus tap dancing christ, pinky, how could I have ever doubted you before? You've just made such an accurate description of me that I'm actually shaking.

Jacob · #22 07-30-2003, 06:03 PM

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How did you know if those people asked the christians "where do you think he's going? be honest." There are non-christians I know who are distant from homosexuals, because they feel it's nasty. It's not always christians.

Oh i know. But whenever you say "Why is it so "wrong"" they will always reply with "Because it was Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve" which links back to the Bible stating it...which means the Bible caused it.

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I mean, at the school shooting, a girl was killed because the guy asked her did she believe in Jesus Christ and she said yes and they killed her and they were NOT christians. Can you say we do the most sinning then? There was another killing like that in Texas too.

Whats the shooting got to do with anything?? The only thing that vaguely annoys me is when your kind states that homosexuality is a sin...when they sin themselves by doing the whole judging thing...didn't "Jesus" say "Love everyone"?

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See your in Great Britian, and I'm in America where everyone is protected by the first amendemt which is freedom of speech, press, religion, etc.

We have freedom of speech here by the by...we're just not nearly overrun by religion. The religious people know were they stand.

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Sometimes, they say that they hate being gay and they want to try to live right.

Some do say they'd rather be straight than gay, which is something i really don't understand. But you've just proven my point...its not their choosing to be gay.

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When they are on their death bed, who do they run to? God, or a near by christian to pray for them.

Just because they do that it doesn't necessarily mean they're wanting forgiveness because of their homosexuality.

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Also, the parts were it says homosexuality is not a sin is wrong it's in 1 corinthinans, romans, and leviticus. Also, Soddom and Ghomorrah was introduced with the first homosexuals and they were blided because they wanted to date the angels, who were guys.

Ok, i don't get that. Are you saying that its states that homosexuality is not a sin in the Bible?

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is not as offensive then saying christians are arrogant and such and that we are nasty.

Like i said, you don't mean to be...but you are. I'm sure Jesus wouldn't ban people from coming to Church just because they've changed their sex. Or dress like a woman. Or want to be a woman. Or look down on someone and say they're gonna go to Hell if they don't turn straight.

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My cousin was raped and she became gay.

What?? Raped by a woman? Or by a man? Because that's just her not trusting guys and she's not gay...its her having an issue...which she needs to have resolved.

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There are some basketball girls who grew up with men all their life and ended up gay.

How do you know they weren't born gay?

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If your not christian, they why would you care and why would you get offended if you don't believe in God in the first place.

It's not that, its the way you say we're not normal and we choose to be how we want and the way you discriminate us that's annoying.

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When if they go to church and the minister reads a scripture about how homosexuality is a sin?

No, but i'm sure they'd get respected less.

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Jesus, is and still is a forgiving guy

Which proves my point. The fact that he is a forgiving guy would lead to him just accepting people as they are and not really being bothered what sexual persuasion they were. However, Christians and others all like to say that we're going to burn etc and we're sinners. For people who want to be like Jesus you have a strange way of going about it...

Anyway, we have digressed from the actual topic...me and Pinky agree that interracialness is fine...

Facsimile · #23 07-31-2003, 03:59 AM

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There are some basketball girls who grew up with men all their life and ended up gay.

Maybe with them being around men so much, the men's taste rubbed off on them.

OANST · #24 08-06-2003, 01:00 AM

I just read this thread. What the hell? What the damn hell? frustrated! Oh so frustrated with humanity right now. What the damn hell? I have nothing further.