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05-31-2003, 09:04 PM
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Other Universes are very real!

Imagine about 12 ft awey from you in another Universe beyond the Cosmic horizon, you are thinking the same as you being right here in this reality. Or 5ft in the other direction your other self is becomming the most richest man or women alive. Or 2ft in front of your nose your other self is dieing or even worse already dead.

Sound wierd and almost Twilight Zone type stuff? Well it is wierd but it is based upon some actual scientific evidence that other Universes actually exist. What lies beyond the cosmic horizon? In other words whats beyond our Universe?

And here is a more profound question. If there are other Universes then where do these Universe and ours exist in? In other words whats the space between our Universe and another?


And here is even more deeper question what does the space in which our Universe and other Universes exist in, exist? and so on and so forth. Very Interesting. I have to say indeed a mind blower.
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05-31-2003, 09:20 PM
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...you listed no scientific proof...
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I've always believed in Parallel Dimensions. I would love to visit one were i am rich and powerful and just to see the differences. In one of my fics (the ones with the Sarraphins) they can Dimension jump...
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I have actual proof of Parallel dimensions. I'm visiting one in June.

It's called Wisconsin.

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Argh not these kind of topics!!! Makes you think so much!!! *Must Keep Brain From Exploding*

I dont believe in parallel dimension though, it would take too much thought too believe that there is parallel dimension.
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This is hardly "mind-blowing" stuff unless you are trying to prove it with science and math. THe only confusing thing about this type of discussion is that you have to use made up words sometimes.

In my stories I talk of a vast cosmos which includes all physical universes and is called the "ether". Seperate from the physical realm is the "nether" realm which is impossible for simple physical creatures to understand. Also, my working hypothesis which can never be proven and that I don't really believe in is that every possibility has, does and will occur. These different possibilities make up new universes, or parallel dimensions if you must, but they aren't exactly parallel are they? This also means the ether is always expanding at a VERY rapid rate. In my story the main character can travel to other universes through the nether by entering rips in the ether caused by the occurance of the possibility.

I could write more but I already sound like a geek.

And I don't want my ideas stolen.
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I believe in this stuff too.
But I don't want to start thinking about this, because I'll be thinking about it until I die. All of us will dead before mankind really finds out this kind of stuff, if indeed we will find out about it at all. Our universe is supposed to be infinite.
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I'm always thinking about stuff like this, I don't know why, I just like to think that there are parrallel universes, and I also think of what it would be like when the world explodes, will the universe explode aswell, and if it did explode, what will be left, more darkness, just without big masses of burning gasses.

But anyway, there are lots of theories about this kind of stuff, and everbody has their own opinion on it, we just believe what we want to believe.
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Hmm, interesting, so I'm not the only freak here who spends hours upon hours pondering impossibly difficult and strange things! I've been thinking things mostly about dreams. When we sleep, are we floating through a vast vortex of universes? Are our dreams just fragments of universes floating together and melding into one strange picture? I think thats what it may be. Another theory of mine, is that what we are, what is happening now at this very moment, is not real. It is all a dream. And when we sleep at night, we are in reality. So, when you fall asleep at night, are you a human dreaming you're a dog, or are you a dog dreaming you're a human? Another theory that suggests that this world doesn't exist, is that none of you exist. I'm the only real thing here, and everything else is just part of this strange fantasy world that my mind concocted, because I am some strange alien creature that is being shown all this because they're using me and the rest of my race for something, or I'm in a choma or just passed out. I could go on and on blabbing like a stupid geek, if I allready haven't done that, but I'm gonna stop here before my post takes up half a page. Indulge in this for a moment if you would.

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Dreams are parts of our own universe merged together into a strange jumble of meaningless crap.

Anyways, who cares about other universes, the fact is that we're in this hell and that no matter what, even if somebody does soundly proove that there are other universes (good luck), we're still stuck here. Hardy hardy har.
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I got this idea off of something I read on Quantum Mechanics in a magazine. It was rather an interesting article because it explanes that you have an alter ego who is liveing in a different Universe and time. Actually you have an infinite amount of you's liveing in an infinite amount of Universes. But each one of you is different in some way. Like in one reality your the richest man or woman alive. and then in the next one your dead and then another one your poor.

It was a strange artical but it was something rather interesting.

It was in a Popular Mechanics Magazine. I was in the store at the time and the title caught my eye when it explaned Parallel Universes actually exist. I was like "oh wow" and I read the article. Unfortunately that was a month ago and I can probabaly go find the Magazine, take a picture of the article, and post it here, but that will be just a waist of time and money on my part just to go do that!:
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Drunk About dreams...

What is the soul? A person's souls is their creative, moral, independent thought. Right, wrong, ideas, imaginations, all are the things that come from the soul and make us different from other organisms. The soul can do anything, which is proven in dreams. Dreams are manisfestations of the souls without the body. Our physical bodies are boundries. They serve as wall which prevent us from doing anything. Without physical laws, the soul can do anything. In our dreams,when our bodies are shut down, we can do anything but without a spirit we cannot really consciously control our soul. A spirit is the "body" of the soul and is scientifically beyond comprehension.

Just ramblings, but completely my own ideas and hopefully somewhat profound.
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what if our universe is just a tiny grain of sand on an beach in a paradell universe?
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I tried to Astral Project aiiiges ago but gave up when i could only get a wee bit out of my body and i ended up screaming in frustration (thats a lie, i didnt). But i may start trying now...

Khanz, what if you have dreams about killing people? What does that say for your Soul...?
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Originally posted by paramiteabe
I got this idea off of something I read on Quantum Mechanics in a magazine. It was rather an interesting article because it explanes that you have an alter ego who is liveing in a different Universe and time. Actually you have an infinite amount of you's liveing in an infinite amount of Universes. But each one of you is different in some way. Like in one reality your the richest man or woman alive. and then in the next one your dead and then another one your poor.

It was a strange artical but it was something rather interesting.

It was in a Popular Mechanics Magazine. I was in the store at the time and the title caught my eye when it explaned Parallel Universes actually exist. I was like "oh wow" and I read the article. Unfortunately that was a month ago and I can probabaly go find the Magazine, take a picture of the article, and post it here, but that will be just a waist of time and money on my part just to go do that!:
I don't think that article does a good job explaining basic quantam physics.

The idea that there is a double or multiples (I've never heard of multiples, only doubles) of the same object somewhere in the universe is based on the fact that subatomic particles are always bonded in pairs, and that these particles share the exact same properties. However, they are not necessarily bonded physically; this means one particle could be at one end of the universe, whereas the other particle could be on the other end of the universe, and they would still have the same observable qualities. Therefore, parallel universes MUST exist, because due to quantam physics laws, there must be another universe like ours. Although it wouldn't be different in any way, it would still be there.

This is also how teleportation is achievable.

But another property of all particles explained in quantam physics is that nothing exists until it is observed. This is quite obvious, but it's rather interesting if you think about it.

But this creates a problem with quantam physics. Everyone observes the same things differently. This was the example I was given. You see a bowl of cheese on the table that has 5 oz. of cheese in it. You may think that's not very much cheese, but I make think it's a lot. Therefore, if people look at the same particles, but observe them differently, weird shit happens -- dunno what though.

You know... there were actually some people somewhere that teleported a piece of data using quantam computers. They teleported a small picture 1 foot from one computer to the other. Quite interesting.

Whoa... that's just about all the thinking I can handle in a 10 minute time span.



Edit: attempted to fix all the spelling errors in this damned post.
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They were talking about level 4 and a level 5 type Universe.

If space is infinate then everything has to be multiplied in infanite amount of ways. The possiabilties of different levels of reality is astonishing.
But in are reality the laws of phisics is as it plays out in our Universe. But what if you go into a level 4 type Universe? the laws of phisics would be different. When you get to 12 you could do the most amzeing things like turning spheres inside out as an example.

We are in a level 3 demension. But there are others like 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,and 12. And then why stop at 12 when you can go on forever?

You ever here of the word "Multiverse?" Thats what I am talking about.
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