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06-13-2010, 11:46 PM
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Blind Oddworld betas

Does anyone know much about oddworld betas? I'll give a few examples:
Whatever happened to the elum trap? Most people say that only one image of it exists, and is probably just a concept image, however, a certain avatar on this site depicts abe in a different position, suggesting that at least two shots were taken.

Of course, that's only one example, and probably one that doesn't matter, anyway. Then again... nah, who cares, just post anything you know about oddworld beta screens! And I'd prefer you don't mention the betas for the ps2 version, because those have been discussed TO DEATH
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06-14-2010, 01:13 AM
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Oh, you have no sense of humour, Xav.

Anyway, I don't get what you mean by "Oddworld betas", smartiamppost. Could you (or anyone else) explain exactly they are?

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Anyway, I don't get what you mean by "Oddworld betas", smartiamppost. Could you (or anyone else) explain exactly they are?
An early build of an Oddworld game, back in the days of Paramite stockyards and that wired part of Rupturefarms that can be seen beyond the electric fence in the demo.
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The Elum trap was replaced with honey, I believe.

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Can you show us a picture of the wired bit Phylum?
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Didn't Abe's Exoddus originally had Elum in Necrum?
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Didn't Abe's Exoddus originally had Elum in Necrum?
Never heard of that I have to say.

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06-15-2010, 03:55 AM
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I always wondered why they didn't include paramites in the stockyard section of the game ( apart from those secret areas).
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I guess it's because it's better to introduce enemies one at a time and not all of them directly. You know keep things fresh.

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I can agree there, they exorcised sligs, bats, various industrial machines and then scrabs in two levels
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I have another query now. Why Bats and Bees? They went out of their way to design rather interesting and original creatures for Oddworld but then they just shoved in bats and bees? Was there a reason for this lack of "oddworld spin" on both these creatures?
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06-15-2010, 01:18 PM
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Lack of necessity given they're only a few pixels in size, plus they play no satirical role. Plus their behaviour is pretty simple, and the names Bees and Bats possibly serve to help players to have an intuitive understanding of how they operate in gameplay.

The Art of Oddworld Inhabitants shows that at least the bees had an interesting concept design (albeit called Wasps).
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I have another query now. Why Bats and Bees? They went out of their way to design rather interesting and original creatures for Oddworld but then they just shoved in bats and bees? Was there a reason for this lack of "oddworld spin" on both these creatures?

Like max said, plus we never saw them closely, so they might be different than the ones on earth, we just don't know it.

Same thing is true for the birds.

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Bats kill you so I guess there at least a bit different on oddworld INSTANT DEATH
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Like most other Oddworld creatures and their Earthian ecomorphic equivalents.
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That's because Abe has the biological sturcture of tissue soaked in water.
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Wow, saudi I haven't replied at all; usually when people reply it comes up in my email account :/ aww well, shanks for the memories!
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when they changed it to scrabs why did they still use pictures of paramites on the back of the cover?
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It's a little thing called "mistake", ever heard of it?

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nope, so back to my question?
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It was a mistake. So you'll have to look it up.
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yes but if it was, surely they would have noticed it.
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They clearly did not. Or perhaps they did, but didn't expect so much of a fuss to be kicked up about it.
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What's this mixup we all whining about?
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If they did notice, they either didn't care or it was too late to do anything about it.

I'm not sure why you're being so adamant that they left screenshots from removed and altered gamescreens on the packaging intentionally.
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Maybe they just left it in to get people wondering if there was a secret area they had missed.
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That's because Abe has the biological sturcture of tissue soaked in water.
Due to Oddworlds immense size the gravity would be much greater than Earths. If what you said was true, the Abe wouldn't be able to walk, let alone hop.
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Due to Oddworlds immense size the gravity would be much greater than Earths. If what you said was true, the Abe wouldn't be able to walk, let alone hop.
Ever heard of a joke?
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