the totally sentient thread!

[STM]

Let us begin with the definition of sentience? Does one need a body and physical mind to exist?

[ODDWORLDisTHEbest!]

a living thing does, except plants of course, and about the title, IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!

[STM]

???What about trees, unless it's an ent a tree cannot think, or can it? If it can't it isn't sentient surely.

[ODDWORLDisTHEbest!]

ive just put all plants!

[STM]

Oi vay this thread isn't going to last long.

[ODDWORLDisTHEbest!]

why is that?

[Elmatto753]

Plants may have feelings. There is evidence for and against the idea.

[STM]

They need sensory neurones though and a functioning brain like organ to register pain and other feelings. So there's no evidence at all to suggest they can feel.

[Elmatto753]

I suppose. It would be cool though.

[STM]

I suppose a person could base an argument perhaps on the evolutionary prowess and apparent understanding of a plants surroundings but is this simply complex evolution?

[Elmatto753]

Everything you do to a plant's environment will affect it in some way, if indirectly. This may make the plant seem intelligent.

[STM]

Perhaps it depends on how long it takes for the plant to adapt?

Ok, perhaps a basic plant...I don't know, elephant grass, which was growing in perfect soil suddenly found itself hanging on the edge of a cliff and after a few generations, all it's daughter plants had evolved specialised roots to better grip poor quality soil, then is this intelligence?

Super BM, I need you!

[Elmatto753]

Well it would happen if the ones without specialised roots died, as that's how evolution works. But you knew that already.

[STM]

You hope

Yer but what I mean is what if the plant managed to create a new root system in just a few generations, that's whacky and some plants seem to be able to evolve this fast albeit in more minor ways.

[ODDWORLDisTHEbest!]

some plants are very intelligent, think about venus fly traps?

[Elmatto753]

More evolution.

[STM]

'Greed

[Mr. Bungle]

If it turns out that plants do have feelings, what will the vegetarians eat?

I'm not saying they do.

[Ridg3]

Poor Max'll starve

[keeperxiii]

'tha hell did I get here? Apparently the forum says I subscribed it!? Oh well...

It shouldn't be hard to believe that plants don't have feelings, right? They're way too stationary to have feelings, they would get depressed easily. Unless it's a super mario plant. Man, those things bite.

[LDG519]

Im not sure if plants are intelligent or not, someone told me there was a type of tree that walked but I'm not entirely sure if he was being truthful or just pulling my chain (I can be very gullable, (incorrectly spelt))

[Wil]

Fuck it, I'm not going to start correcting the science in here; I'd be here forever. Which isn't necessary a bad thing, but you morons would be here too.

Poor Max'll starve

Not necessarily. I'm only vegan knowing I can do so safely and healthily; if I couldn't live avoiding food that used to think and feel, I wouldn't choose to not live.

[Mac Sirloin]

I'm so glad BM hasn't hit this thread yet, and hopefully never will.

[LDG519]

I'm so glad BM hasn't hit this thread yet, and hopefully never will.

I hope he does hit it, I get to learn science stuff

[ziggy]

I wonder if you can measure the IQ of a plant.

And ya Bullet Magnet would tell everyone how much of a dumbass we all are/ explain the fallacies of all your crackpot theories. But this is probably not worth it.

[LDG519]

I wonder if you can measure the IQ of a plant.

And ya Bullet Magnet would tell everyone how much of a dumbass we all are/ explain the fallacies of all your crackpot theories. But this is probably not worth it.

I wouldnt like the bit of him calling us morons but I have no problem with him explaining the faults of our theories, I'm interested in what he would say about this

[Mac Sirloin]

He'd say "This is dumb, let's have some french fries!"

He wouldn't actually say that.

Anyway, isn't there a way to quarantine this thread or something? We got the three worst posters (by popular opinion) in here!

[Wil]

I'm evolutioning plants to have intelligence through a Lamarckian breeding programme. I've already produced a fuschia that passes the Turing test.

[Nate]

I'm evolutioning plants to have intelligence through a Lamarckian breeding programme. I've already produced a fuschia that passes the Turing test.

That explains a lot of your recent posts.

[scrabface]