PETA is a lie

[mitsur]

[Nate]

Precis, please?

[Havoc]

PETA is funny.

The funny thing is that the people who really work with animals, like people running those shelters, sanctuaries and zoos, want absolutely nothing to do with PETA. I've been part of a mailing list for exotic animal owners for a while. These are people who keep exotic animals (like big cats, monkeys, birds, reptiles, ect) as pets or in a private sanctuary. Whenever a post was made concerning PETA, absolutely EVERYONE opposed them. If one of those people would be able to save their animal from death by supporting PETA then they still wouldn't because no one in the REAL animal industry want's anything to do with them.

PETA's target audience is not the animal holder community (which you'd expect, since getting those people on your side would greatly increase your chances of realizing your goals) but the average Joe Smoe at home. What they do is show their idiot commercials to people who have no idea where their meat comes from and then start making them feel guilty about it. The result is thousands of people who support a cause they know nothing about. I'd even make the bold statement that not a single PETA supporter has ever had any hands on experience with animals. The only experience PETA supporters have is hands on experience with DEAD animals.

[Bullet Magnet]

PETA would have all human contact with animals come to an end. All those animal lovers with their dogs and cats who send money to PETA have no idea that it would have their beloved pets removed from their homes and cast into the wild.

I must say, though, most people have no business keeping some exotic species in their homes.

[Havoc]

That depends on how responsible you are IMO. Especially in America (in some states you don't even need a permit to hold something like a tiger) things sometimes get out of hand and people neglect their 'pet'. But there are also a lot of people who are responsible and take care of their pets like they should. I, and the responsible owners of said animals, agree that exotic animals should not be treated as lightly as a cat or a dog. You need to have good knowledge of what you're doing and that's where some American states drop the ball sometimes. By just giving permits to people who have no clue as to what they are doing.

The ironic truth is however, that the animals would probably be better off with these people then they would with PETA.

[Bullet Magnet]

I think big cats and primates should be totally off limits. They are both endangered and undomesticated. The cats and some apes can be very dangerous, and primates in general have a much greater capacity for depression and mental anguish.

[Zerox]

Lololololololol etc.

Putting down animals is the way in some extreme cases, but the fact PETA does it themselves contradicts their own liberationist ideals, considering that they do it for exactly the same reasons anyone else would (i.e. it's in such a state it's going to die anyway) but complain about anyone else doing the same. The fact they killed a whole 2/3 would also seem to suggest that they might have lower standards for an excuse to kill the animals in their posession. How would firebombing the lab help, since surely that would burn to death the animals they're trying to save?

Medical experimentation on animals is possibly not as bad as people look at it. As medicine advances, less is needed, in all other respects the animals are treated very well (since the people doing the testing are looking to help medicine, and thus are unlikely to be complete jerkoffs). What I will go against, however, is testing on animals for the sake of soaps, shampoos and other such nonsense, for the pure intent of making money even though we have more than enough of these products available for use.

Guide dogs/ponies and the like, many pets, farm animals etc. are hardly abused, and treated well, though not all farm animals may be. Blind people love their guides and treat them as friends, so how can that be considered so terrible? Many pets such as dogs would never have come into existence if PETAs ideals ruled, and if freed into the wild would die pretty quickly through having been domesticated. Many animals in all these positions enjoy their lives, so it seems silly for PETA to have such a huge problem with it.

Merely a bunch of ignorant, hypocritical or a combination thereof, of fools.

[stonetooth]

You know whats sad? PETA has enough free time to save animals, but they waste it on making a VIDEOGAME. If you go to: www.kentuckyfriedkruelty.com, i beleive there is a game, or you can find it from PETA.com

edit: ok, its www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com. It is a rip off of mario, and princess peach is pamela anderson, because apparently she supports PETA. And throughout the entire game, people beat the crap out of mario because he rides on a yoshi and steps on turtles. BULL CRAP! It mocks the entire idea of mario. I would kill every PETA member just for the fact that they made such a bull shit game.

[oko]

What I will go against, however, is testing on animals for the sake of soaps, shampoos and other such nonsense, for the pure intent of making money even though we have more than enough of these products available for use.

I've never really got this. How DO they test these products on animals? I imagine they don't just rub shampoo in a gorillas head

[Nate]

Nah, their backs are hairier.

[Wings of Fire]

They do, if the gorilla develops a horrible skin disease and dies then it's back to the drawing board.

[Bullet Magnet]

They test the levels of skin irritancy, eye tissue damage, toxicity and lethal dosage of each of the various substances used in these products.