How big do you think untire planet of Oddworld is?

[paramiteabe]

I think it is as large as Jupetor. Maybe even bigger. We know it is 20 times bigger than earth. Maybe the size of the sun. That explains the deverse culture and life. Oddworlds gravity must be extremely strong. Who knows.

[Alcar]

Firstly Oddworld is 10 times bigger than Earth. And yeah the gravity would probably be more dense

[Xavier]

yeah... the gravity must be amasing...
How can muds walk, they should be pletted on the ground

[One, Two, Middlesboogie]

Niteowl explains his theory about the gravity in 'Only Hyoo-Mun' (which, incidentally, is the greatest Oddworld fanfic ever... read it if you haven't already done so):

Another strange thing about Oddworld; its sheer size suggested that its gravity should have crushed the humans on arrival, but it was fairly comfortable. Evidently, there was an element here that canceled out some of the gravity. Perhaps it was the same element the Jarrek and his friends had salvaged from the old security orbs to build the hovertrucks and skybikes.

There did not seem to be a lot of seismic activity on this planet. The precarious architecture he'd seen wouldn't have survived otherwise.

[Danny]

I'm not a Geologist, but would a faster spin cycle counteract the high gravity? If that were so, then Gravity on Oddworld would appear to be significantly greater at the poles. I think that would be a good idea for OWI, since it would give a great variety of wildlife, since those living further away from the equator would have to be stronger and bulkier.

[Gluk Schmuck]

Originally posted by Rettick:
I'm not a Geologist, but would a faster spin cycle counteract the high gravity?

Yes


If Oddworld doesn't spin faster than the earth then the Mudokons may have much stronger or better-positioned muscles to cope with a higher gravity than on Earth.

I like your idea, Dan.

[Xavier]

hey, cool idee...

We go to analyse the Oddworld astrology, we alredy know there are 5 moons

[Oddsville]

Also in the Stock Yards of Abes Oddysee we see tons of different kinds of "celestial bodies", Im not sure which are moons and which are planets but if they are plants then they seem to be in Oddworlds Orbit, which would suggest an extreem gravitational pull.

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[Wil]

Heh, because I'm me, I played through the stockyards and counted something like 27 celestial bodies, including Abe's Moon. And this is just in one small portion of Oddworld's sky!

[Xavier]

27.. that's a lot, on earth we have 2 sometimes 3 platets taht we can see, no much

[Eibu]

*coughit'sonlyagamecough*

sorry, I guess I'm a party pooper...BTW which scenes can you see five moons?

[Xavier]

there is no scene redy yet...
We just know each hero will have a moon

[Lampion]

Some astronomic info: planets with bigger mass than Earth has a much faster rotational spin. jupiter's rotation period is about 10 earth hours, for instance.

but we don't know exactly how big is Oddworld, compared to Earth, because if it's diameter is ten times bigger than Earth, it's volume will be 3/4 Pi(10xR)³ or so, (I can't remember the formula to the volume of an sphere). On the other hand if we are talking about its voulme, compared to Earth, than, we have to make another calculus to find the diameter of Oddworld, wich will be far less than 10 times the diameter of Earth.... blah, blah,blah.

In addition to that, as Middlesboggie told us, the gravity of a planet depends also on what kind of material it is formed. If Oddworld is formed by light substances, not metals, like most of Earth's core(Irun), it would contribute to a weaker gravitational force field.

And last ,but not least, your are right, Rettick, about the spinning movemenet diminish the Gravity close to the Equator's line, but the planet would have to spin in a really fast pace so that phenomenon could be percieved by a human, for instance. The fact the the planet is deformed in its poles, forming an elipse rather than an sphere, tends to canceal this "centrifugal force" effect, because the ammount of mass close to the equator is somewhat bigger than around the poles...blah, blah, blah.

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[Danny]

"4/3 x Pi x radius cubed" is the formula for the volume of a Sphere.

Lampi: But if the Planet were bigger than Earth, and spun faster, then the difference in Gravity would be much more noticeable...

[Oddsville]

Im not sure but if the surface of the planet was larger wouldn't it even out, for example if Oddworld spun as fast as Earth than wouldn't it be alot less gravified. I thought that the speed of the planets circulation would even the gravity out in contrast to its size?

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[Danny]

That's what I'm saying. I'm a little confused about what you're saying, though - are you saying that this always happens? In that case, you're wrong, because if that were true, then all planets [and moons, any spherical body] would have the same Gravity...

[Eibu]

:: party pooper walks back into the thread::

So...uh...umm...ano ne...

Does anybody else think there is WAY to much thought going into this?

Here's my theory...Lanning-san wants to have a lot of options for future Oddworld games that may not take place or have anything to do with the stories thus far and so said that Oddworld was SO big that some parts of the world don't know what's going on at the others, thus giving him creative freedom/excuse to practically do whatever he wants on Oddworld.

As for the gravity...I think it's like asking where solid ground is in "The Jetsons".

:: party pooper walks out of the thread::

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[Danny]

Eibu, we all know that this is just a game, but is there really any harm in thinking about things like this?

[Eibu]

No there is not...I'm sure I used to have convo's like this all the time back in the day

I'm sorry, I just had to get my thoughts in. I'm actually impressed in some ways about all this math that's going on, should have paid more attention in Physics last year even though I got an A...

[Danny]

"Back in the days"?

Anyway, I find this kind of speculation amusing, so don't burst my bubble. And it's good practise for MY Physics in June...

[Oddsville]

Sorry for my confusing explenation Rettick, what I should have said was for each size of a planet and the speed it spins would even it out to what its gravity should be like. Still alittle confusing, take the moon for example. Its reletivly small compared to the Earth and its spins very slowly, so its gravity is almost none. If a giant planet spun slowly than the gravity would probably be medium, but if the giant planet spun at a moderat pace than the gravity would be slightly larger than Earths, and lastly if a giant planet spun quickly than that gravity would be extreem. I know its really confusing and its really hard to explain so just forget my idea.

[paramiteabe]

I alweys thought of Oddworld haveing a ring system orbiting it like Saturn. I know we can't see a ring in the Oddworld skyline but there could be a ring. Maybe in the last CG movie at the very end of the last game in the quintology the camra will pan out into space and reveal the untire planet of Oddworld to us before it goes to the credits. That would be a nice finally to the ending I think. And we could see all five moons circling Oddworld. And as the camra moves further back Oddworld will also have this imprint on its surface. It could be the Oddworld Inhabitants symbol imprinted on the surface like the other imprints on the moons. Who knows. I only know that we are going to see something cool!

[Steve]

well I'm pretty sure that the higher the rotation the less of a sphere it is planets bulge at the equator so you couldn't use the formula of a sphere by the way paramite abe the sun is a couple of thousand times the size of earth if I'm not mistaken.

[oddguy 999]

I also deffenitly heard from offical info about Oddworld being 10 times larger then Earth... But as it has already been said it depends if its surface area, volume or diameter that was the refrence to size. However through deduction I think it would have been area that they where talking about as thats the surface of a planet, and what the biosphere exists on which is where life lives, and they where talking about life on Oddworld in that artical. This means that the diameter of Oddworld would be a bit over twice that of Earth. And if its core was less dense then Earths or hotter (as to make it expand and make it less dence) it would have a lower gravity in porportion to its size. So it would probly have 1 to 2 Gs of surface gravity (thats not much).
Personaly I would like to find out that Oddworld is not part of any planetry system at all but rather was born from a nebula. And instead of having a sun it is eluminated by 1 or more very volcanicanly active moon/s (a bit like Io of Jupiter).

[Danny]

Oddsville: No, the opposite happens, as Centrifugal Force cancels out some of the Gravity.

Oddguy: Well, that would certainly be... Odd...

[Wise Abe]

Man, you guys are way too smart for me. I hated biology, chemistry, and physics is the absolute worste right now . However, I do love the subject and ideas of astronomy, and I'll probably take a course in it in the near future.

BTW, the gravity must be more than earth because when Abe jumps in MO he seems to come down really quick,

[oddguy 999]

Its suprising how quick gravity is... 9.8 m/s... you biuld up quite some speed with that aceleration.
Also Abe could be realy short or tall (in comparison to humans) in which case the speed he falls would seem a bit strange.

[Danny]

When only pulled by Gravity, the speed at which people fall generally levels out at 120mph. I'm not quite sure why that's relevant, but I'm sure it is...

[Sl'askia]

*tries to think of something to add to this topic* *brain sputters and fails* eep....*falls over* (You guys and gals are getting too scientific for me! eeeee)

[paramiteabe]

Oddworld is a type of Science Fiction. I guess some of us are genuises. Everytime I learn about Biology or the solarsystem I alweys think of Oddworld! YOU, ARE A GENUIS!