Laws That You Would Change

AquaticAmbi · #1 09-25-2005, 07:16 PM

Pretty simple: List and explain laws you would change or remove in your country/state/whatever.

The Patriot Act--I would definitely remove or at least put some heavy restrictions on the Patriot Act, which pretty much gives authorities ridiculous rights to investigate a person, survey a person, search the home of a person without notification, etc if they are suspected for any reason to be a terrorist--even without substantial evidence. This could be so easily abused (A little red flag could be put by your name for even checking out a book or two on Hitler from the library.) and infringes upon the civil rights (to privacy and whatnot) of the American people. It basically gives the terrorists exactly what they want: for us to lose our rights and stuff.

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Shrink · #2 09-26-2005, 05:29 AM

I would change a lot of American laws... but, well, it's not my place.

I'm happy with most of the English ones, if Stem Cell research is properly legal.

Hobo · #3 09-26-2005, 10:12 AM

Cannabis laws are stupid, legal drinking age to 16, alteration of law so that no one with an IQ of less than 120 can hold a seat of serious power.

Dino · #4 09-26-2005, 11:22 AM

Argh, damn you in the face! I was going to pick those.

Kimon · #5 09-26-2005, 11:37 AM

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Cannabis laws are stupid, legal drinking age to 16, alteration of law so that no one with an IQ of less than 120 can hold a seat of serious power.

Wow. You stole my words. Bastard!

Umm... yeah. There aren't many laws I'm not really happy with. Except for cities that oust hobos from them. Those hobos need somewhere to live.

metroixer · #6 09-26-2005, 11:45 AM

You can drink when you are 16 in ukraine!

Hobo · #7 09-26-2005, 11:46 AM

We get by, i live under Peter's avatar y'know...

But seriuously Hobo's should be helped not poked with the proverbial stick of justice

T-nex · #8 09-26-2005, 12:13 PM

Well.. we have a pretty lame law that says that suicide is illegal

... i don't see what the point with it is :P

Anyways, I'd change the legal car-license age to 16 for girls and 18 for boys. it actually works like that somewhere i dnt remember where. But the point with it is that boys usually wanna play cool infront of the girls when they get a license, so the invite them ride a ride, and then crash, getting killed or something. If the girls get a license before boys, they aren't gonne play cool anymore

Hobo · #9 09-26-2005, 12:21 PM

But that's sexist and can't happen because PC will destroy the universe! And not all men are sucky, some women are bloody awful drivers too...

Leto · #10 09-26-2005, 12:26 PM

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Anyways, I'd change the legal car-license age to 16 for girls and 18 for boys. it actually works like that somewhere i dnt remember where. But the point with it is that boys usually wanna play cool infront of the girls when they get a license, so the invite them ride a ride, and then crash, getting killed or something. If the girls get a license before boys, they aren't gonne play cool anymore

I can see this stirring up arguements like 'OMG bois r betor tehn grils'.

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Wow. You stole my words. Bastard!

Umm... yeah. There aren't many laws I'm not really happy with. Except for cities that oust hobos from them. Those hobos need somewhere to live.

No! You stole my words! Even for teh hobos. Mostly all of the hobos around here are nicknamed and ridiculed then done in for public masturbation.

I know! Give the smart hobos seats of serious power! ^_^

Shrink · #11 09-26-2005, 01:05 PM

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But the point with it is that boys usually wanna play cool infront of the girls when they get a license, so the invite them ride a ride, and then crash, getting killed or something. If the girls get a license before boys, they aren't gonne play cool anymore

Get back in the kitchen.

Leto · #12 09-26-2005, 01:31 PM

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Get back in the kitchen.

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I can see this stirring up arguements like 'OMG bois r betor tehn grils'.

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Wow. You stole my words. Bastard!

Umm... yeah. There aren't many laws I'm not really happy with. Except for cities that oust hobos from them. Those hobos need somewhere to live.

No! You stole my words! Even for teh hobos. Mostly all of the hobos around here are nicknamed and ridiculed then done in for public masturbation.

I know! Give the smart hobos seats of serious power! ^_^

I agree with everything this man just said.

Rich · #13 09-26-2005, 01:41 PM

I have no real problems with the current laws here. But I wouldn't mind the driving age being lowered, it'd make things much easier. I'd could take myself to band practice and go on excursions to Scarborough, for some reason...

used:) · #14 09-26-2005, 03:03 PM

I would instantly eliminate No Child Left Behind. Becuase of that stupid program, I wasn;t able to take Creative Writingthis year, instead, I have to take this piece of shit course called Math 9.

Dino · #15 09-26-2005, 03:28 PM

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Anyways, I'd change the legal car-license age to 16 for girls and 18 for boys. it actually works like that somewhere i dnt remember where. But the point with it is that boys usually wanna play cool infront of the girls when they get a license, so the invite them ride a ride, and then crash, getting killed or something. If the girls get a license before boys, they aren't gonne play cool anymore

A highly incorrect and sexist generalisation. One that ignores bisexuality and homosexuality, and tars all boys with the same brush.

I think you'll find that most boys own a car for the same reason that anyone owns a car; simply so that they can get from one place to another without having to rely on a train, bus, or taxi. There will always be a few boys who like to drive to impress the ladies, but that said there will always be a few girls who like to do the same for the boys.

MojoMan220 · #16 09-26-2005, 04:07 PM

All these drug laws are silly. If somebody wants to mess themselves up they should have the right to do it. The war on drugs is a disgrace, there are so many more important things police should be doing with their time.

Scrab-Meat · #17 09-27-2005, 05:00 AM

How about abolish stupid speed limits in specific areas?

Kimon · #18 09-27-2005, 05:48 AM

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All these drug laws are silly. If somebody wants to mess themselves up they should have the right to do it.

While I basically agree with you, the problem with drugs is that you'll mess other people up, not yourself. Drunk driving (ironically, the most common example and legal drug) is a great example of how drugs hurt others than those who take them.

All that aside, I agree that (most) drugs should not be outlawed. The only things that should be llegal are activities that may harm others.

Dino · #19 09-27-2005, 07:11 AM

Drink driving isn't legal, LOL, the fact that alcohol is legal doesn't mean that drinking while driving is legal. The fact that people drink and drive shows that there is a general disregard for the law anyway, so no matter what happens people will always take drugs and do dangerous, stupid things.

I know that sounds defeatist, but it's true. There's not much point legalising drugs that render you unable to operate a car or other such stuff, because it'll only make it that bit easier for people to drive while under the influence of that particular drug.

Cannabis however, has in most tests been show to either make no difference at all, or to make drivers more cautious. There has not yet been one single car accident where cannabis has been found to be the sole cause - in every single case of a car crash where cannabis was found in the blood of those involved, alcohol was also present, usually in much higher quantity.

Kimon · #20 09-27-2005, 11:27 AM

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Drink driving isn't legal

Oh, I know that. Maybe I didn't phrase my statement clearly.

When I say "common example and legal drug", I meant drunk driving accidents are very common, and alcohol is a very common legal drug. In retrospect, I have no idea what I was talking about.

Anyway, my point was that drugs can do destruction to more than just the person taking them.

Shrink · #21 09-27-2005, 01:18 PM

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A highly incorrect and sexist generalisation. One that ignores bisexuality and homosexuality, and tars all boys with the same brush.

I think you'll find that most boys own a car for the same reason that anyone owns a car; simply so that they can get from one place to another without having to rely on a train, bus, or taxi. There will always be a few boys who like to drive to impress the ladies, but that said there will always be a few girls who like to do the same for the boys.

Way to repeat exactly what I said, as if I didn't say it.

used:) · #22 09-27-2005, 02:05 PM

I agree that the frug laws wate too much money trying to get Mexican/Columbian mules, but if you make something illeagal, people will only do it more.

Kimon · #23 10-01-2005, 07:00 PM

Another law I don't like: Curfews for minors. That = bad; I think we should be able to stay out as long as our mothers allow us to.

Splat · #24 10-02-2005, 01:30 AM

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Drink driving isn't legal, LOL, the fact that alcohol is legal doesn't mean that drinking while driving is legal. The fact that people drink and drive shows that there is a general disregard for the law anyway, so no matter what happens people will always take drugs and do dangerous, stupid things.

I know that sounds defeatist, but it's true. There's not much point legalising drugs that render you unable to operate a car or other such stuff, because it'll only make it that bit easier for people to drive while under the influence of that particular drug.

Cannabis however, has in most tests been show to either make no difference at all, or to make drivers more cautious. There has not yet been one single car accident where cannabis has been found to be the sole cause - in every single case of a car crash where cannabis was found in the blood of those involved, alcohol was also present, usually in much higher quantity.

Always the optimist Dino.
Now if only I didn't have to agree...

Legal drug causing death: Cigarettes. Kills millions of people a year, at the same time millions of people start every year. And the government don't illegalise it for two main reasons: They get money from the cigarette companies, and they get money from the anti-smoking companies/campains.
Opium itself will do about the same damage to your lungs as smoking 10 cigarettes at once.
If other drugs were legalised a lot more people would start and a lot more people would get ill, a lot more people would be crowding round the hospitals and the healthcare problems wouldn't get any better (unless America decided to start its own NHS (National Health Service) using the millions of dollars they're getting from drug sellers and "stop abusing drugs" companies). You need to look at the bigger picture, its not just the abusers who are effected. And seriously how many of you people would never take drugs if they're illegal but once they're made legal, how many then. Think about how many teenagers in school go for a cigarette at lunch time.

And after that bout of completely disagreeing with most of what's been said so far in the topic, I'm not going to comment on T-nex's driving law, but will instead say:
In Japan left handed children are 'corrected' before they start writing to use the right hand.

Hobo · #25 10-02-2005, 02:11 AM

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Another law I don't like: Curfews for minors. That = bad; I think we should be able to stay out as long as our mothers allow us to.

Wow, that must suck. I wouldn't be able to do my drunken stublings around at night. Where's the fun in that?!

***Alcar*** · #26 10-02-2005, 04:19 AM

Underage drinking laws.

Oh how much trouble that has got me into.

Alcar...

Dino · #27 10-02-2005, 09:12 AM

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In Japan left handed children are 'corrected' before they start writing to use the right hand.

That's just as pointless as trying to convert a gay person into a straight person.

And this whole cigarrette thing pisses me off. The government are no better than 19th century factory owners, getting rich at the expense of people's lives.

Fags should be banned permanently, and the laws against them should inflict heavy punishment upon the illegal trade of tobacco. Class A drug classification for tobacco! That would be a good investment for the future of the NHS.

Splat · #28 10-07-2005, 04:25 AM

Actually, yeah, I agree with that. The laws in Ireland about not being alowed to smoke in public at all and having specific places for people to go and smoke is a good idea, more and more people are taking up smoking. If the rules on smoking were tighter less people would be encouraged to start, and eventually rules could com in to ban it all together. That would be a very good day!