Double Standards

[AquaticAmbi]

Those evil double standards... We've all experienced them at one time or another. They can be related to gender, race, religion, etc., but all of them are incredibly annoying. What kinds of double standards have you personally experienced?

The main double standard that I commonly experience is people commenting on my weight. While calling someone fat is seen as horribly mean, calling someone skinny seems to perfectly fine. It drives me crazy.

[TheRaisin]

You are crazy.

My P.E. teacher is well-meaning but sexist. Many a time has my team been thwarted in basketball because of his "girls' shots count double" rule. And that other team has two girls to our one. And one of them is quite good. But not THAT good. We would win if it weren't for his messed up rule.

[mudling]

i experenced lots of unfairness, one is sexism. quite a while back, we had a "vist a public high school" day. i tried out woodworks and we were making spin stops. the teacher kept on going on about the fact that boys were the ones that always had acidents and he couldn't trust them, he also let every girl do everything first, it was annoying but i got over it. did i mention the teacher was male? anyway, i am currently in a boys school so i don't experience much sexism.
the people in my school don't realy care about wait, as long as you don't care. and trust me, i don't exactly get left alone becuase i am skinny.

[Hobo]

The main double standard that I commonly experience is people commenting on my weight. While calling someone fat is seen as horribly mean, calling someone skinny seems to perfectly fine. It drives me crazy.

Yep, i'm there a lot. Though saying that, i do point out my girlfriend's weight a lot, as she's pretty skinny, but only because i don't want her to become underweight and half dead like I am.

[Facsimile]

Those evil double standards... We've all experienced them at one time or another. They can be related to gender, race, religion, etc., but all of them are incredibly annoying. What kinds of double standards have you personally experienced?

The main double standard that I commonly experience is people commenting on my weight. While calling someone fat is seen as horribly mean, calling someone skinny seems to perfectly fine. It drives me crazy.

Oh I get the skinny thing all the time.
If I could help it I would, pricks.

[Dipstikk]

I have a low metabolism, so that's one of the reason's I'm tubby. I do excersize (swim, ride my bike) but it seems like I can't work it off.

I love fat jokes, though. I think they're hilarious!

They rarely go farther than:

Some guy: "Hey u ur fat maaaaaan!!!!11111five"

Me: "That's true. Good observation skills."

Some guy: "Hur hur ur fat lolz"

Me: "And you seem to be stuck in a loop. Good luck with that. Bye."

[soulstice]

i experenced lots of unfairness, one is sexism. quite a while back, we had a "vist a public high school" day. i tried out woodworks and we were making spin stops. the teacher kept on going on about the fact that boys were the ones that always had acidents and he couldn't trust them, he also let every girl do everything first, it was annoying but i got over it. did i mention the teacher was male? anyway, i am currently in a boys school so i don't experience much sexism.
the people in my school don't realy care about wait, as long as you don't care. and trust me, i don't exactly get left alone becuase i am skinny.

OMG, my woodworks teacher from year 9 was exactly the same. He always blamed boys for the accidents and dotes on all of the girl. For example, he'd let all the girls go first after class and make the boys tidy everything up.

[Dino]

Woodwork teachers are idiots anyway, all brawn and no brain. The best teachers are always the science and chemistry teachers (usually they have quite a good sense of humor). Geography, maths, biology, and english teachers all suck.

The worst double standard that I can think of is "racial equality" and "equal opportunities". Racial equality is supposed to mean equal opportunity between a white employee and black or ethnic employee of equal skill and qualification levels. But what it actually translates to in the real world, is that if you're black and you get turned down by an employer who runs a business that has no black or ethnic workers, you can sue the employer for being in breach of racial equality, regardless of whether that had anything to do with his reasons for not giving you the job.

This so called "racial equality" helps black people get jobs or promotions without racial prejudices and competition from other white people affecting his chances. That sounds good on the face of it, until you realise that it simply means that a white guy who has worked hard at school to become qualified enough to work somewhere, can have his chances of getting a job or promotion taken away from him by a lesser qualified black guy.

I see this as enforced racism. If we want racial equality we'll have to stamp out racism altogether, not force it on employers. Racial equality should mean that black people should have to work equally as hard as white people in order to have equal chances. People can't help the skin that they were born in, so it shouldn't be a factor in anything at all - nobody was deliberately coloured black or white to annoy anyone, so there is no reason why either one should be punished.

This isn't racial equality, it's racial bias, and it's another one of those stupid politically correct rules.

[Rich]

Geography, maths, biology, and english teachers all suck.

My maths teacher rocks. Literally, he's in an indie band.

[Kimon]

My chemistry, math and english teachers are all very entertaining. Just for the record.

As for double standards, I dunno. I have a lot of opinions on racism, but not neccessarily double standards regarding racism. I don't like the fact that white people are pretty much defenseless against black people. Not that I don't like black people, but if he makes fun of me for my race, I could take it to court. And I'd lose. If I made fun of him for his race, he'd take it to court, and most likely win. Racism is all very confusing.

[mudling]

true Dino, when human beings try to fix a problem, they go a little bit over the top.
also people who fight sexisim and racisim and usualy sexest or racest themselves. to try and fix the problem, it is much easyer to join a side, and i guess they're not realy doing anything but adding to sexism or racisim, and then when they can find nothing wtong with it, they look for anything they can find, it's like some compition for them. e.g. some feminests wanted people to take the men/man out of women/woman, becuase it makes males seem more important.
what i think is that we are equal but females are also men, that's why we call our speacies the speacies of man. hence all the expressions/words which apply to both genders but have the word man in it. i think you can guess why the wom is in the woman.
i am probibly completly wrong and i am sorry if i just discriminted against anyone.
*edit* this guy in my year got rejected in a game becuase he was white. now people in my year and school take discrimination as a joke. on speak up day they all claimed to have sent the school an email saying i bullied them! i mean, if i told on everyone who was even just a little bit cheap to me, i'd have most of the year and some others in other years in trouble!

[Teal]

This isn't racial equality, it's racial bias, and it's another one of those stupid politically correct rules.

Amen. One of my friends at Uni used to quite openly play what he called "the race card" - he was a big Indian bloke, every bit as English as me, but if things didn't go his way he'd kick up a fuss about racial inequality so he could get his way. To be fair he wasn't a mean bloke, and he volunteered for a lot of things, but it used to leave me incensed when he'd get something overturned in his favour because the admins were scared of being accused of being racist.

And ditto on the weight thing, too - although I've noticed a lot of the popular glossy magazines over here have grown the same way about skinny people, with headlines like "PLEASE, for the love of god, PUT SOME WEIGHT ON!"

[Nate]

I can't stand old-school feminists who, rather than striving for equality, try to make women better than men. I once read an article by Germain "Misandrist*" Greer where she actually said that ALL men hate women and want them to fail.

I don't hate women. In fact, I think it's safe to say that there is only one woman I hate. And that would be that good old misandrist.



*'Misandrist' here replaces a lengthy string of expletives.

Pronunciation: 'mis-"an-drist
Function: noun
: one who hates men —compare MISOGYNIST —misandrist adjective —mis·an·dry /-drE/ noun plural -dries

[Jacob]

I, too, agree with Dino. The Police are the worst when it comes to this, mainly because the Government has done this "quota" thing and they need to fill it up. Meaning any ethnic minorities (i don't know if it goes out to Fags as well, but if it does then i shall shake my fist in fury along with many-a-Muffy) get fast tracked into the force.

I remember when i heard the above in that film 'Malcolm X' (i think it was that) and i was all "GRRRR-ARRRRG! That's not true!!" ...but, sadly, it is.

And it causes more racial tension than anything.

[Wil]

Hahaha, this reminds me of a newspaper article pinned up in our common room. It was about an old temporary teacher who was accusing her current employers of being racist because she had to envigilate exams. Holy shit!

She said it was because she was exotic (she's Indian) and speaks French, which they were jealous of.

My, how we laughed.

Jacob, I believe the police are currently, or were not long ago, looking for more gay officers to be part of their special gay division to go around dealing with all the gays' gay issues. How much muff is that?

The main double standard that I commonly experience is people commenting on my weight. While calling someone fat is seen as horribly mean, calling someone skinny seems to perfectly fine. It drives me crazy.

I got called sinuey today, but I didn't mind, because I got felt up by Ed and Will.

[Al the Glukkon]

My brother has Autism, so he is not treated as a "Normal" person. While I do know that this isn't really a standard and is reasonable, it just pisses me off when someone mocks him or stares at him.

Today in Biology, my friend told me about how some kid was making fun of the way he walked after my dad had dropped us off (I had gone to where my other friends usullay waited, so I missed the whole thing and now feel terribly bad about it.) My friend then tells me that my dad heard the kid so he goes up to him and asks if he has a problem with how his son walks. The kid got the shit scared out of him and started to stutter and such. After hearing this, I had a feeling of satisfaction.

[Jacob]

Why? How, exactly, does he walk?

'Jacob, I believe the police are currently, or were not long ago, looking for more gay officers to be part of their special gay division to go around dealing with all the gays' gay issues. How much muff is that?'

I loathe that. Can't they just get a Muffy to do it? Do they have to go around seperating groups and making the division between Heterosexuals and Fags even more obvious?! It's a time of inter-fookin'-gration, Fags should deal with Muffy hijinks, Blacks with White hijinks and nobody should get special treatment because of who they f*ck or how well they can hide in the shadows.

Christ.

[AquaticAmbi]

I have been reminded of one of my homosexual friends and a double standard he seems to have. If someone calls him a 'fag' or something to that extent, he is extremely offended and angered. However, he often refers to himself and other homosexuals in such terms. I find that very odd.

The same goes with black people and the dreaded "n-word."

[Dino]

Apparantly, a black person calling another black person a "nigger" is satire/mockery of white people, especially those who used to call them "niggers" as a derogatory term in simpler times.

Seems a bit stupid though. Not every single white person who ever lived is racist against black people. But whatever, I hate racism in general, and anyone who is racist.

[Jacob]

'If someone calls him a 'fag' or something to that extent, he is extremely offended and angered. However, he often refers to himself and other homosexuals in such terms. I find that very odd.'

I constantly refer to myself and other Queers in a derogatory manner, ranging from the simple 'Sausage Jockey' to the unique 'AIDS spreading Wookie hunters'. But in turn, i don't care when somebody is derogatory to me.

Tell him to grow up, and if that doesn't work, get some Homophobe to kick the crap out of him.

'The same goes with black people and the dreaded "n-word."'

Myself and a couple of my friends constantly use Racist and Homophobic words, 'cos we see it as so long as we don't mean it in an offensive manner (and we don't, and never use it around somebody who could take offense) then it's not ACTUALLY Racist. But then, we all have this hatred of Political Correctness, and so we do, do our best to rebel against it. Purely to piss off the people who are overly PC.

T'as to be said, to an extent i agree with the BNP when they go on about abolishing the whole 'race equality' thing. Because it really is corrupt. Though nobody says anything in fear of being called a "Racist".

B'stards.

[Dino]

Yeah I don't know what to make of the BNP, they say some cool stuff sometimes like "abolish racial equality" but then you realise it's probably because they actually don't WANT racial equality of any sort, corrupt or not, because they would rather have white supremacy. They don't have any cabinet members who are black, or of ethnic background...so I think that's pretty telling really.

I disagree with them though, on the point that Brits should be 100% patriotic to the point that they won't allow people from other countries to pollute the British gene pool. We're a mongrel nation anyway, so I don't see what we have to lose by allowing people from other countries to live here and contribute to the population.

[Jacob]

I don't recall hearing them say anything about a 100% pure genepool, or getting rid of the entire race equality act, or anything about us being patriotic.

[Dino]

I don't recall hearing them say anything about a 100% pure genepool, or getting rid of the entire race equality act, or anything about us being patriotic.

They may not have said it in public leaflets, but certainly plenty of people have discovered that the majority of the members are racist.

Overall though you can't really deny that a party which names themselves "the british national party" is just a little bit patriotic.

[Jacob]

'They may not have said it in public leaflets, but certainly plenty of people have discovered that the majority of the members are racist.'

Meh, when it comes to all the papers i hardly believe a word of what they say. Besides, the BNP have quite a few good points when you actually listen to what they say and not what the Media perpetuates.

The leader of the party once said something along the lines of the Quoran saying rape was okay, and to destroy the white man. The BBC then got some Quoran scholors to have a look to see if this was true, and apparently it was an "extreme interpretation" and was thus disgarded as shoite.

Though it's not shoite, 'cos it can still be interpreted that way, and so in that sense, the BNP are correct. But noooooo, we can't say anything bad about the ethnics, even though they're more Bible-bashing than the Christians will ever be.

[Dino]

If everything that people say about the BNP is true, then somebody really high up is going to a LOT of trouble to make sure that the public at large hate them. I seriously doubt that to be the reality of the situation.

The BNP often say things that are quite controversial and extreme. They've accused other cultures of many things as you pointed out Jacob. Even though they may be correct in some cases, you've got to wonder why the hell they constantly talk about stuff like this. They're always saying SOMETHING bad about non-whites. The BNP getting power would put Britain on a fast track to being at war with just about every single nation in the world.

There is no doubt about it, they've drummed up quite a reputation for themselves. If they were truly good guys who cared only about the welfare of Britain and weren't in the least bit racist, then they wouldn't have this much shit said about them. Look at parties like the Green Party, UKIP, Labour, Conservative, and Liberal Democrats - they've all had their fair share of rumours and propaganda spread about them, but none of them have ever had as much of a consistent pounding as the BNP.

I mean of course they are going to appear fairly harmless in all their own literature. If I was a neonazi party attempting to manipulate my way to power, then I would put on an attractive sugarcoated public front too.

The truth is that if they didn't have so much to hide, then there wouldn't be so much evidence, rumour, and accusation going on. In the world of politics you cannot hide anything, stuff WILL leak. I mean if you never read any critical articles about political parties and only paid attention to the parties own statements, you would never hear about the mistakes that they make - you would be stuck for choice, because each party would make themselves sound amazing, even if they're just going to ruin Britain. You wouldn't be able to form a good opinion, and make an informed decision when it comes to voting.

Labour are a bunch of lying, cowardly dickheads for example, but we didn't know that to begin with. Their leader has a close political relationship with the war criminal George W Bush and I firmly believe that the entire party is responsible for the death of weapons inspector David Kelly. I bet that their website or leaflet doesn't say anything about that.

[Jacob]

Oh, i'm sure that the BNP are more Racist than they like to percieve themselves. But i hardly trust the Media with anything anymore, especially when it comes to things about Race and Sexuality.

The Media has the ability to control our country if it wanted to, hence why i'm suspicious about every report i read, no matter how believable.

[Dino]

Oh, i'm sure that the BNP are more Racist than they like to percieve themselves. But i hardly trust the Media with anything anymore, especially when it comes to things about Race and Sexuality.

The Media has the ability to control our country if it wanted to, hence why i'm suspicious about every report i read, no matter how believable.

Oh absolutely, the existence of advertisements on TV or anywhere at all for that matter is proof of that.

[TheRaisin]

So. Double standards, eh? How 'bout 'em?

[AquaticAmbi]

Hmm... How about war? It could be considered a double standard; it's wrong to kill unless you're told to by your government.

[Dino]

The stupiderest thing about war is that you can find similar logic in the playground among 5 year olds. "You stole my marbles so now I'm going to kill you!" sort of talk.