Lady Margaret (Maggie) The Glukkon Queen

[Cullen Heath]

Okay, I have a few questions about Lady Margaret, that I would like some answers on.



1: Why doesn't she look like a normal Glukkon, but rather a centepede like creature?

2: When she gives birth to Glukkons, they can't fall down, down, down that long drop into the fire and get killed instantly. There has to be a way that she can move up to the platform and give birth there, otherwise, there would be no Glukkons. How is it possible that she can do this because........ (this brings up my next question) .............

3: She is attached to a pole/crane like thing. How does she get arround? There must be a way for Maggie to have transportation. She can't sit in that same place her whole life. Does the crane rotate or something?

4: Does anyone have any special info on Maggie??? Does anyone know if she will get her lungs afterall and be featured in any future games or films?
Any pictures besides the one attached?

[Nate]

1) A good question but with no real answer known yet. I just assume that the 'queen' biology is very different to the 'worker' biology in the Oddworld hive system. This is where the comparison to bees breaks down, as queens are just worker bees that are fed royal jelly, whereas it appears that oddworld queens are born different.

2) There's probably a platform that approaches her hoo-ha when she's about to pop one out. Either that or she moves to a different location entirely when in birthing mode.

3) I'd say that the pole/crane thing is her mode of transportation.

4) Wish I could tell you but I've been sworn to secrecy.

[Cullen Heath]

Well Sam, the Mudokon Queen looks like a Mudokon more than Maggie looks like a Glukkon. Do you know what Skillya looks like?

Yes, I thought there would be a platform too.
But, how can that crane move her around, what is it connected to?
And what do you mean, you can't tell me? Who did you swear to?

[SligStorm]

iv never seen the Mud Queen :S

[Cullen Heath]

This is Sam, the Mudokon Queen.
She is held as a prisoner, her mane purose it to give birth to baby Mudokons so the Glukkons can use them as slaves.

[Xavier]

well nate answered right to all the questions...
even if the last one I have some doubts

keep in mind this is only a production pic... we don't know if she will be like that in her final version. and she might be located in a totally different place.

[Cullen Heath]

Well, what about the Gabbit Lungs that she needs? We don't know if she will end up getting those.

I hope she is relocated to a more industrial place and that she stays the same or changed very little. I really like her design. She may not look like a Glukkon, but she does look way cool.

[Nath]

If you wanna know how she moves around... Buy the oddworld art book.

[Cullen Heath]

You mean "The Art of Oddworld Inhabitants---The First Ten Years"?
I really want it, but I blew all my money on Christmas Gifts for my family and on other Oddworld stuff.

[Nath]

Yeah. That's what i said. The Oddworld art book.

[Wil]

1. She looks different because she is a different caste of Glukkon. Her development was different from other Glukkons', just as is the case of insects. Remember that that's just one design for Maggie. A different one appears in the Art Book in which her body shape is much more like Sam's.

2. Again, this is just a concept art, and isn't necessarily what the Queen looks like.

3. In the alternative design, Maggie is moved by Kintos.

4. Since she started knocking on death's door by the end of Munch's Oddysee and she has a big part in the story of the Oddworld Quintology, I can only assume she does eventually find replacement lungs, whether they're from a Gabbit or from another Glukkon.

All we really know about Lady Margaret is that she blames Molluck for the destruction of RuptureFarms and the failure to stop Abe from escaping, so upon his discovery, he goes on trial. She also really, really, really hates being called Maggie.

[TomFrogman]

3: She is attached to a pole/crane like thing. How does she get arround? There must be a way for Maggie to have transportation. She can't sit in that same place her whole life. Does the crane rotate or something?

I don't see why not. To my knowledge, queens of a bee hive remain isolated to one portion of the hive and only attempt to leave if death seems probable. Their job is simply to sit around all their life and 'make babeh's'.

Is there any particular reason as to why Lady Margaret would be any different or need to move herself around?

[Abe 01]

Where do you people get information about mudon and glukkon queens? i heard of them but i dont know anything about them
How come there is only one female out of the species and if a queen died how would the species repoduce?
sorry overload of questions just one more,
could anyone show me a picture of the slig queen

[Xavier]

interviews, Q&A, diaries and stuff...
http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/toa/

probably the same way as ants or bees do

no we don't have any picture of her

[TomFrogman]

no we don't have any picture of her

Wasn't there some early concept art of Skillya floating around somewhere?

[Havoc]

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All we really know about Lady Margaret is that she blames Molluck for the destruction of RuptureFarms and the failure to stop Abe from escaping, so upon his discovery, he goes on trial. She also really, really, really hates being called Maggie.

Now that you mention Mullock, that sheds some diffrent light on that concept art. One could say that might just be mullock standing on trail there...

[Xavier]

yep, Havoc that could be it


and no we never saw the slig queen

[Abe 01]

Glukkons are used to being in the dark and the light hurts there eyes right?, that place the glukkon queen is hanging is all fiery and light

[metroixer]

Thats a good question Abe 01. Xavier/Max can you tell us the answer to this?

[Wil]

Yeah, simple: it's natural light that hurts the Glukkons' eyes.

Excpet for Phleg in Abe's Exoddus, the regional managers in Munch's Oddysee, and any other instances where OWI forgot their own characters' backstories.

Now that you mention Mullock, that sheds some diffrent light on that concept art. One could say that might just be mullock standing on trail there...

Well, the writing on that image does say Maggie is about to deal with Molluck.

How come there is only one female out of the species and if a queen died how would the species repoduce?

There are other female Glukkons, if the aforementioned image showing Maggie about to deal with Molluck depicts cannon. They're shapped rather similarly to Gloktigi, clearly not fully-fledged queens. Perhaps they can develop into a queen when the previous queen has died.

[used:)]

Use your imagination Cullen ( if you have such a thing).

If you look at th picture with the Newscaster reporting about Mullock's trial, they show a cartooney form of maggie's face on the screen holding boxing gloves. This image looks more glukkonese that her full body picture.

[Cullen Heath]

Now that you mention Mullock, that sheds some diffrent light on that concept art. One could say that might just be mullock standing on trail there...

That was my thought, exactly. I was thinking that was what was going on. Either that or, some important Executive meeting.

And used, I did notice that picture, but never really noticed what it was. Thanks for pointing that out.


Guys, thanks for all this info, I really appreciate it. This is great! If you have anymore, please post it.

[Nepharski]

1.) Glukkons are a "Super-species." That is to say that they, like Ants and Bees, have one female who is a queen of sorts, and everyone else is either male of sexless. In species such is this, it is not uncommon for the female to be extremely different looking that the rest, nor is it different to be larger.

2.) That's concept art, so I don't really think we need to worry about that.

3.) Actually, she is supported not by a crane, but by enslaved Kintos, which are bread specificly to carry her around on their backs (There's an image available in Art of Oddworld in the Munch's Oddysee section). She's too important and "Regal" to crawl on the ground like the rest of us. I image she lives in a comfortable status, to which she has become accustomed (See's the Oddworldian equivolent of Dale "The Whale" Biderbeck).

[Havoc]

Well, the writing on that image does say Maggie is about to deal with Molluck.

Where does it say that? O.o

[metroixer]

I think its that righting at the lower left corner. Maybe a certain oddworldian writing? If so then Max you need to get out more . (j/k)

[Wil]

In the small writing actually on the concept art itself, on the bottom of the image. Since it's not actually the textual content of the book, I'll dare quote it at the risk of being sued for billions. It says “Maggie on the Sedan chair flanked by her personal guard [they're what look like the Gloktigi-shaped females - looking now at the dates, this image predates the familiar Octigi Family chart by a month, so they're probably actually Gloktigi, just an earlier design. ], about to deal with Mullock.”

Molluck is spelled wrong, clearly.

That's concept art, so I don't really think we need to worry about that.

Seconded - looking into things even closer than ever before, there are models of the slug-bodied Sam, suggesting that is the more final design, and the one attached in the first post is obsolete, though interesting.

If so then Max you need to get out more

Now, I was fully anticipating this kind of attack, so I prepared a response. Since this is production art, its only value could be to learn more about the characters through looking at the way their designs evolved over time. If this is the case, the purchaser of the book will also be interested in the footnotes, as these will provide even more explicit information.

In other words, sod off, I payed for this book, I'll get as much out of it as I want to.

[Cullen Heath]

No, Metroixer. That says "Farzad". I think it is the name of the person who drew that, and whom works with Oddworld Inhabitants.

[Havoc]

In the small writing actually on the concept art itself, on the bottom of the image. Since it's not actually the textual content of the book, I'll dare quote it at the risk of being sued for billions. It says “Maggie on the Sedan chair flanked by her personal guard [they're what look like the Gloktigi-shaped females - looking now at the dates, this image predates the familiar Octigi Family chart by a month, so they're probably actually Gloktigi, just an earlier design. ], about to deal with Mullock.”

Oh you mean it's a caption from the artbook? Cuz I realy don't see anything textual on that there image :P.
Anyway, interesting. I realy want to get that artbook! >.<

[metroixer]

Me to but apparently "Santa Claus" Diden't get one for me.

[Wil]

Oh you mean it's a caption from the artbook? Cuz I realy don't see anything textual on that there image :P.
Anyway, interesting. I realy want to get that artbook! >.<

Ah! Hooray for Max! He's figured out the source of the confusion!

You're talking about the image attached in the first post, right? I'm talking about the image depicting the slug-bodied Margaret which is only in the art book. When you said the image of Maggie in front of Molluck, I thought that's the one you meant because I don't remember the Glukkon in the above image ever being identified as Molluck, though it seems likely in retrospect. I wondered why you could see there was no text on the image itself yet didn't own the book.