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10-13-2003, 08:54 AM
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The Darwin Principle

The Darwin principle is a universal timeless truth that was not invented by Charles Darwin, but was certainly made famous by him. The Darwin principle is summarized as follows: The best genetic qualities tend to promote survival. The worst genetic qualities tend to promote extinction. Over time, the best qualities are passed on by the survivors and the worst qualities disappear with the losers. Example: The entire forest is brown and it is inhabited by 98 white rabbits and 2 brown rabbits. Eventually, all of the rabbits will be brown because the white ones are highly visible and will be eaten by predators. The two brown rabbits are likely to survive and breed more brown rabbits.

The Darwin principle applies to humans as well. People with bad vision used to get eaten by predators. Now they just wear glasses and breed more nearsighted humans. The human race will eventually become blind because of this unless they can do some fancy gene repair in the future.

Those who choose to use drugs and go through life doing stupid things tend to get killed off by vehicle accidents, overdoses, drug ripoffs, diseases and other mishaps. This rids the gene pool of stupid, defective people so that they cannot breed and raise more stupid, defective people.

Most of the people who are killed by guns can be classified as “Darwinians” (with the exception of a few innocent people who are unfortunate enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time). Gang members tend to shoot each other, drug users tend to shoot each other and the jerks who abuse their fellow man tend to be shot by the police. Innocent, intelligent people are rarely killed by guns.

The whole point of this message is to point out that outlawing guns will only allow more of the “Darwinians” to propagate which will draw the rest of the gene pool into a downward spiral. We would be much better off to give guns to the violent people in the prisons and let them take care of each other. Guns are not a problem with reasonable and intelligent people. Guns do give them a chance to protect themselves from the “Darwinians” (those who are too violent or too stupid to survive in the world).

I do not advocate killing people who are mentally retarded (when is the last time that you heard of someone who is retarded shooting someone else?) nor do I advocate killing anyone. I simply advocate letting “Darwin” do what he has been doing since life first began. You may find this harsh but I would also apply this principle to refuse free medical treatment to those who insist on abusing alcohol and drugs until they are unable to care for themselves and live their life in the gutter. If they have relatives that will take care of them, then maybe there are some good genes somewhere in the family. If you let “Darwin” take them then you will not have to take care of any children that they might father (or mother). Just ask any Emergency Room what percentage of their resources are taken up by these defective people. If you think that society is in a downward spiral then look here for the reason.
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10-13-2003, 09:54 AM
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I agree. Very much so. Yes. I may even bring up my thread again...

Extinction of the lowers is the way forward. Lets make the world perfect...ish.
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Those who choose to use drugs and go through life doing stupid things tend to get killed off by vehicle accidents, overdoses, drug ripoffs, diseases and other mishaps. This rids the gene pool of stupid, defective people so that they cannot breed and raise more stupid, defective people.
yet, stupidity runs wild in the world. Ridiculous, isn't it?

Let me ask you something....have you heard the new NRA themed restaurant? They have excellent John Lennon Lemon Chicken......terrific Kurt Cobain Lo Mein, Columbine Calamari, Martin Luther King Crab legs, the Watts Wings and the Kennedy Creme Pie. Wilkes Booth Beefaroni for the kids. IMAGINE the endorsments.....the potential. All thanks to guns!

[/sarcasm]

no one can make the world perfect or a better place. Darwin realized this, and this is in his theory, WHICH WORKS BY THE HAND OF GOD.....if you want to look at it that way. Nothing is perfect, there will always be a replacement for a species of animal to find a niche for a short time, before it is replaced. Letting people "shoot it out" in order to let the "intelligent species" carry on will only lead to anarchy and chaos.

Or maybe you should try the Hitler death burger?
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If people are stupid enough to do such things, they deserve to die. Harsh, yes. But it's the consequences of their own actions. But I wouldn't want them to die out completely.

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I'm sure you aren't writing these yourself, so where are you getting them?

Some good points made.
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I'm sure you aren't writing these yourself, so where are you getting them?
I was thinking the same thing...too smart sounding. No offense, of course.

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Originally posted by Facsimile
I'm sure you aren't writing these yourself, so where are you getting them?

Some good points made.
No i dont write these myself, i got them from this site. But that site is disclosed....
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I can't believe this. What Johsy wrote is not really what Darwin's theory says. YOu are replacing stupidity for stupidity.

Those points he made are poorly proven. It is not in your genes that you act stupid. (eye sight? I were glasses, but both my parents have perfect sight. this does not prove anything)
You are not a born drug addict, (though some may argue that alcoholism skips a generation on the mother's side)

Besides this, instead of trying to help these people, you just want them to die out as if they are an inferior species. Even animals are helped out who are dying off anyway.

You must be a very disgruntled person to be an advocate of this. I really can't see how you can be posting this on an Oddworld board, a board centered around a game whose message to to HELP those in need, even if they harm us, and not be careless and apathetic and allow things to die. I mean really, are you that heartless?

again, this is useless......
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IYou must be a very disgruntled person to be an advocate of this. I really can't see how you can be posting this on an Oddworld board, a board centered around a game whose message to to HELP those in need, even if they harm us, and not be careless and apathetic and allow things to die. I mean really, are you that heartless?
Some people don't want to be helped. They'll try with all their might to make sure no one helps them.

In the end, all you can do is leave them. They aren't helping themselves, yes. But, if they won't allow themselves to be helped you can't do anything.

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I also find your assurance that this would actually work hard to fathom. This wouldn't get rid of the "a-holes" in the world....but just create more to take the place of those who dies out. This is just liek passing judgement on people you really dont know. AND......what is to say you won't be in there same position one day.....things come back to bite you in the ass.

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Are you aware of the conotations of this thinking? Social Darwinism (which is after all what YOU are talking abouthere) ushered in ruthless Imperialism, re-inforcing such ideas as Divine Right (which has been twisted and boiled in ammonia by such present day "leaders" as George W. Bush) and also heightened anti-Semitism in Europe during the late nineteenth century and into the twentieth century. Are you aware that Darwin never, in fact uttered the words "Survival of the fittest." His thinking was not along these lines, but others took his theories and pursued them for their own causes with wild abandon.


Totally unfathomable on my part. I jsut can't see this ever really happening, and if it did, we would all be worse than than before.
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Do you intend to be so boring and spoil a somewhat comedic view? Joshy didn't write this, don't argue with him. This is Off-topic Discussion, he can make whatever threads he wants to here.
Don't be so defensive and just have a laugh.
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right. I usually don't let things like this bother me. Though I hardly find this funny or worth a laugh, at all. But he has to at least believe it somewhat since he DID post it. I still stand by everything I said.
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I think Mr Boj is part of the inferior race...lets burn him, then atleast we get the goody-two-shoes off this planet...
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