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Dead ShinRa Electric Power Company (Final Fantasy VII) vs the Magog Cartel

Since I'm in a vs and FF mood right now, here's a crossover scenario to contemplate.

In the blue corner; the ShinRa Electric Power Company, as the beginning of Disc 2 of Final Fantasy VII (just an hour or so after you-know-who's death), headed by President Rufus Shinra, and with the party, Jenova, Sephiroth, and his clones deposited by the Fat Chocobo into an alternate dimension where a drunk Kefka, Neo-Exdeath, Zeromus, and Garland are all riled up and ready to kick ass.

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The ShinRa company is an electric power company (to be precise, Mako power company) that rose to power during a war against Wutai, making itself rich as a weapons manufacturer. It also went into power as a electric company, making itself even richer and augmenting/constructing the massive city of Midgar. It is so powerful that it is remarked upon as the controller of virtually everything across the world, and has a ruthless business ethic matched only by the Magog Cartel. For instance, in order to kill a terrorist group with only a few members which had been posing a threat to them by blowing up their reactors, they crushed the entirety of the Sector 7 Slums by releasing the plate, killing likely millions of people. They work with mob bosses and ephebophilic perverts like Don Corneo, and are willing to do virtually anything to ensure the survival of the company. In short, they are a fair match for the Magog Cartel in ethics.

Economic Feats: Being able to control virtually the entire world under it's old presidents reign using money. Being able to maintain a powerful private army and finance enormous amounts of research and secret operations.

Intelligence Feats: ShinRa maintains a secret police organization known as the Turks, who seem virtually immune to the law and maintain their personality and cheerfulness while doing stuff that ShinRa can't get away with publicly. The Turks are well armed and well equipped, being able to use wand like weapons that launch enormous amounts of electricity into a foe's body, being able to imprison foes in pyramid like constructions that require some force to break.
Military Feats: Their elite military group, SOLDIER, have all been injected with cells from an extraterrestrial entity called Jenova (although most people who know of Jenova think she is a member of an ancient race of humanoids called Cetra). Even 3rd Class SOLDIERS are capable of wielding a sword as effective as most people wield a gun, and 1st Class SOLDIERS are powerful enough to far exceed damage with their sword than even that from a grenade. For the purposes of the debate, assume Sephiroth and Jenova can't control the SOLDIER's from the alternate dimension, but they still gain all Jenova based abilities.

Engineering Feats: Constructing a massive robot at least the size of a LOTR cave troll capable of dealing massive damage to foes. Constructing many other smaller robots, varying in size from 1/3rd of a human, to over 5 times the size of a human. Constructing these robots for guard duty of sewers, much less other areas.

Other Feats: Completely reconstructing a burnt down Nibelheim and hiring actors to fill the entire town in five years.

Greatest Feat: Augmenting and contructing the enormous city of Midgar.

In the red corner:
Our beloved Magog Cartel.

Scenario:
A worm hole about the size of Rupture Farms has opened around the western coast of Mudos and is linked to an equal sized worm hole that lies several kilometers outside Cosmo Canyon. Abe and co have also been dumped in an aformentioned alternate dimension.

Final Note: The two sides are compelled by the Fat Chocobo to go to war. They cannot make any kind of truce until Nolybab or Midgar is destroyed.

FIGHT!
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You fail. That's from FF8. And if you are just going to troll and spam, don't post.
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You fail. That's from FF8. And if you are just going to troll and spam, don't post.

No. You fail for knowing the difference just by a tiny screenshot.
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That's from FF8.
Hint hint.

FF8 > FF7.

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I don't see no homosexuality in here. And once again, if you are going to boost your post count and troll, then pish off.
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So.. a teenage girls fantasies about marrying a fictional character more than twice her age goes with zero trolling or flaming, yet a perfectly well reasoned and what's more, explaining what ShinRa is, their abilities in various areas, and the comparisons between the two and method of transport, is being trolled in. Ignore this topic or write something meaningful. Lest this topic likely turn into a spam fest and be moved to Necrum, in which case your spam will be deducted from your post count. Begone!
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Hey, this is Oddworld forums. Don't expect participation from us cynical lot.

Unless you try the RPG section. That's more what you're looking for.
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It is related to Oddworld due to the fact it involves a crossover with a very similar setting and Oddworld. And if you are just going to be trolls and spammers and not kindly kriff off, well, you are free to participate in being trollish assclowns and I'm going to ignore you and just continue with the topic.

Anyway: Jordan, I think Rufus definately takes that one. Molluck could only headbutt and swat at him in a 1 on 1, whereas Rufus has a friggin shotgun and was able to hold off Kadaj while falling from a high building with Geostigma. Now Palmer vs Toast the Slig, that could be interesting..
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Quit trying to sound all eloquent whenever you post. It's annoying. You're expressing simple ideas with a shit load of extra, unnecessary crap.
That, my friend, is Oddworld forums.

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It is related to Oddworld due to the fact it involves a crossover with a very similar setting and Oddworld. And if you are just going to be trolls and spammers and not kindly kriff off, well, you are free to participate in being trollish assclowns and I'm going to ignore you and just continue with the topic.

Anyway: Jordan, I think Rufus definately takes that one. Molluck could only headbutt and swat at him in a 1 on 1, whereas Rufus has a friggin shotgun and was able to hold off Kadaj while falling from a high building with Geostigma. Now Palmer vs Toast the Slig, that could be interesting..

You are a giant fucking nerd. I mean, normally I could care less if someone is into things that are a bit out there but you are actualy making a passionate plea for us to see the worth of your little expose on A. video game versus B. video game.
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Quit trying to sound all eloquent whenever you post. It's annoying. You're expressing simple ideas with a shit load of extra, unnecessary crap.
Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
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You are a giant fucking nerd.

And that makes you...?

I'm going to regret that later, I know it.

Anyway, ShinRa would win hands-down. Sligs, Abe, Molluck, whoever. They would all die without even making ShinRa break a sweat.

Think about it. They have robots, Sephiroth, Rufus, the giant laser gun thingy, and all kinds of technology light-years ahead of OW.
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Thank you, Mitsur, for being the second person to actually post something meaningful. But Sephiroth has been put in a pocket dimension, and even if he was there, he would be against ShinRa and everybody by the end of Disc 1. But I wonder how the Sister Ray would deal with Vykker's Lab's. And to steal one person's comment's from one of the Terra vs Oddworld threads, Slig repro is much faster than human repro. And perhaps a bit of genetic engineering on the parts of the Vykkers could result in lots of beasts able to control ShinRa's bots. And imagine the possible strategic effects of putting up Slig snipers in Cosmo Canyon, where there is a high observatory post which could possibly be retrofitted into a miniature, Sister Ray like device.
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Well, they have Sephiroth, Jenova, SOLDIERs, the Sister Ray, and all the technology of Midgar.

I say ShinRa wins. ShinRa always wins.

Except against that ****in' Meteor thingy. They lost against that thing.

The best Magog has is Kefka, and I beat him in, like, two minutes hands down.

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One sided as hell. Sephy alone could win this.
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Sephy can beat a huge freakin' dragon with one spell. Of course he can beat the Magog Cartel.
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Yeah, but Sephy, Jenova, and Meteor are out of this debate. As are Cloud, Tifa, Barret, Aerith (well, by this time she's dead anyway, but she can still be a pain while dead), Nanaki, Cait Sith (though they can build a new one, and Reeve still exists), Vincent, Yuffie, Abe, Munch, Stranger, and anybody else I forgot to mention from the FF7 party or Oddworld heroes/anti heroes. Also, ShinRa has to go through the long process in Disc 2 to build/move the Sister Ray. But everything else stays on both sides. And the time setting for the Cartel is about 10 minutes before the start of Abe's Oddysee.
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