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07-20-2002, 08:02 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Surfacing
[B]If you have a table in your house, the chance is someone made it directly or indirectly for you. It did not made itself, or it was not made by a chance. Same rule applies for your car, your house, your clothes, your medicine, and everything else in your home or at your work. The common sense says that there is a worker behind every work, there is a maker for everything made. Nothing is made by itself or by a chance.[B]

Ah, but you're forgetting- we don't really create those things. When you "make" a table, you are not starting with nothing and ending with something, you are simply manipulating something into something else. When you think about it, we don't really create anything, just change it. You can't truely create anything and you can't truely destroy anything, just combine, dispurse, organize, randomize, transform or otherwise manipulate it. A person cannot really create anything, because you have to have the components to start with. We see the act of manipulating them as "creating" because we have a bad habit of not seeing it as a conglomeration of it's parts, but as a whole seperate thing. The idea that a man "makes" a table is a fallacy of logic caused by our limited perspective of existance.

And, even if everything in the universed DOES have to have a creator, it's a completely different argument. You're arguing that God exists and that he created everything- fine, let's assume he does, and that he did. The conflict at hand is HOW life was created, through evolution, the creation theory expressed in orthodox Christian scripture, or something else alltogether. WHO did it is completely irrelivant, the question is HOW, and since scripture is insanely vague on this subject (in fact, COMPLETELY vague. It gives us NO INFORMATION ON THIS SUBJECT WHATSOEVER, other than how long it took, and that's iffy!!!), that leaves evolution and something else, and evolution is our best estimate right now based on the evidence we have . Whether or not god exists is a completely seperate argument, because he could very well exist and have used Darwinian evolution as his tool to create life. This is why I believe in evolution- because the alternatives have little or no support , and can actually go with evolution if you think about it! Please, think about it!!!!
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