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Originally posted by Dragadon
1: I do have respect for those I eat...they enable me to feed my body so I can live for another day. The same with any other meat eating animal.
2: I don't eat meat for pleasure. Yes it tastes good to me, but I consume it for the same reason I stated in number 1
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Like I've said countless times, the argument for eating meat because it allows you to
live another day is flawed. I haven't eaten meat for years, yet I'm alive and well - there's your proof that it isn't essential for you to survive. You are not respecting the animals you eat, because you're not acknowledging that they don't want to die.
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If meat products have no nutritional value that can't be gained from plant matter, then why isn't there a wide spread push in human society to stop eating meat?
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Because most of society is based around pleasure-seeking. The fact is most people find meat tastes nice, and aren't willing to give it up becuse they are
selfish. That is what my whole argument is about.
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...humans as a majority are more concerned with living as long as possible...to beat death as long as possible, rather then live as a part of nature as we did thousands of years ago...
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I'm not quite sure how this supports your agument, as on average, vegetarians live longer than those who eat meat.
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[/b]You invited us meat eaters to go kill our own food. Well, lets be fair now...I invite you to go gather your own fruits and veggies in the wilderness (no...your garden doesn't count). If the only way you will accept our meat eating ways is for us to kill it ourselves...then you go gather your own food like us. If you can't do that...then sit down and shut up about it.[/B]
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You've completely missed my point. I asked meat-eaters to kill the animals they eat because the process of killing another living being is shocking. I was protesting that the majority of those who eat meat are detatched from the process of slaughter.
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Originally posted by Jacob
Its interesting. Fruit and Veg are plants and plants are living beings also...yet people are willing to eat them because they dont show no emotion etc.
On a different note Marijuana comes from a plant and thus was a concious being. Who knows whether plants can think or not...nobody knows for certain. Its basically like saying "This Rock is not alive" how do we know? Just because it doesn't have a heart etc doesn't mean its not alive. People assume to much...and when brought up with certain points they disregard them, thinking their way is right etc or ethicly correct.
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Marijuana comes from a plant and thus was a conscious being? I don't know if I should take you seriously, Jacob. The most stupid argument I have ever heard that attempts to villify vegetarians is that "plants have feelings, too." If you're going to declare something, you're going to need something to back it up. Using your logic:
Cornelius: We shouldn't visit the moon because we will squash the invisible unicorns living there!
Penelope: But there are no invisible unicorns on the moon!
Cornelius: But nobody knows for certain...
The burden of proof remains with you. Take a class in biology before you claim that plants have feelings.