[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

Originally posted by Fazerina


You don't have to eat meat for the nutrition! Argh! Why the veggies in here have told you that you are lazy and ignorant in our meat-eating arguments before, is because you really are. You say that you eat meat because you have to, but that's just that you don't know any better. You could go and study the subject, before saying this argument over and over again. Because it isn't true! Let me make it simple for you: You do not have to eat meat to be healthy. You can get your proteins and iron and everything else your body needs without ever putting a piece of meat on you mouth. Veggies get proteins from different kinds of beans and peas and soy products. You are ignorant, because you don't know the real facts and you're lazy, because you don't go and find them out. And I sure am not skinny, so there's no point there...



Oh, don't be stupid!



If it was a healt issue, I think eating meat would be acceptable. But are there really humans, who can't digest anything, which would replace meat in his diet?



There we go again. Here comes the "other animals eat meat, why couldn't we?" argument... Because we know better. And besides, animals, who eat meat kill it themselves, which is, on my opinion, more acceptable than letting someone do the dirty work for you. It sure isn't pretty, though, when eg. a lion kills a gasell. The gasell can still be alive when the lion starts ripping it to pieces... But there isn't anything we can do about it. And there are animals, who just have to eat meat, or who wouldn't do so good without it. We can survive without meat, and eg. dogs could. I've been studying the subject, and I may turn my dog to one, but I really want to study it properly, so my dog won't lack anything in her diet, because I don't want to make her sick. Cats are also possible to turn into veggies, but it's much harder on them, than dogs.

Oo... and here comes the "you stupid people, who think animals can reason". I (and many other people on this board as well, or taht's what they've said in their posts) think that animals can think, feel, remember and feel pain. Most animals are intelligent and it's stupid to say they aren't. By intelligent we don't think they are as intelligent as humans, but they are thinking and feeling creatures with a mind of their own, not our toys or material for us, whom we can just use as we please. Of course we can't go and talk to them. But if we study their ways of communicating with their peers, we can learn to communicate with them. And what comes to monkeys; they can learn up to hundreads of words. Really learn. If a human says something, like "ball" they can go and get the ball, if they're taught to do so. But then again, is the human trying to communicate with the monkey or just toy with it?

FAZ....YOUR SO STUPID! WHAT ELSE REASON WOULD THEIR BE TO EAT MEAT? THERE IS NO OTHER REASON? DON'T YOU DARE CALL ME IGNORANT AND LAZY. THE ONLY ONE WHO IS IGNORANT AND LAZY AROUND HERE IS YOU. WHY? BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE FACTS EITHER, AND LAZY ENOUGH TO KNOW THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE EAT MEAT AND YOU ARE START TO JUDGE PEOPLE! THEY PROBABALY CALLED YOU IGNORANT AND DUMB IN THE PAST ARGUMENTS. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH EATING MEAT UNLESS YOU DON'T ABUSE IT. LIKE IF YOU DON'T EXCERSIE AND KEEP IN SHAPE. SO DON'T BE DUMB AND TRY TO FORCE PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR DIETS. IF PEOPLE EAT THE MEAT FOR PLEASURE, LET THEM THAT'S THEIR CONCERN. Like SeaRex said, there are people who both kill the animal for game but eat it also. AND IF WE KNOW BETTER NOT TO EAT MEAT, THEN WE MUST NOT BE THE TYPE OF ANIMALS, quote on quote "Scientist" think we are then.

OKAY, NO ONE SAID THAT ANIMALS ARE STUPID. THEY CAN THINK. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEARNING, REASONING, AND INSTICTS!

ALso, the lactose intolerate thing is an example because there are vegetarians who don't drink milk from a cow.

ALSO, YOU CAN GET ALL THE NUTRIENTS YOU CAN WITHOUT PUTTING VEGGIES IN YOU MOUTH ALSO! YOU CAN GO BOTH WAYS. YOU can reach that homestasis