[Jacob]

I dont want to be banned for defending myself, but im gonna say this anyways.

(1)Do you really think I'm naive enough to believe that Jacob "didn't even know his sig was against the rules"?(2) Jacob has never shown respect to the rules and will sidestep them wherever he has the opportunity

(1) - I actually didn't know the rules of the banner thing.

(2) - I dont intentially sidestep them. I have actually asked Mods in the past if typing something would be ok...and i dont get a response. Its not exactly encouraging OR helpful when that happens.

(1)Alcar clearly and politely pointed out to Druzil that his signature is a touch too big for the rules.(2) Jacob, with his trademark rudeness, dismissed Alcar's comments and told Druzil to carry on with his signature.(3) Every couple of weeks Jacob needs to be reminded of something. (4)It gets repetitive. (5)If he's been here this long and still isn't familiar with the rules, maybe he shouldn't be here.

(1) - Ok...i was wrong. There.

(2) - If i wanted to be rude i would have been.

(3) - No, i have never been reminded. I usually stay within the boundaries and if i did break the rules it was never on purpose.

(4) - This gets repetitive. You closed my post about 'Gay characters in OW' and said 'Im warning you Jacob' and i didn't know what i did wrong.

(5) - I'm familiar with most rules, the banner one i wasn't familiar with.

(1)And yes Jacob, I'm threatening you with a ban. (2)You're not supposed to take kindly to threats, but that's the way it is.(3) Let's get things straight here Jacob - you're the member - I'm the Founder and one of the Administrators of this community. (4)I've been diplomatic with you long enough and it's as clear as quartz that you will never change.(5) If I have to remind you every so often that you're breaking the rules - fine, but I wont tolerate that attitude.

(1) - Fine, threaten me. But make sure you have a reason to next time.

(2) - Yeh, and im taking it you wont consider 'Advising' me over threatening me.

(3) - And thats Bullying. Just cos you have the ability to ban me doesn't mean you have the right to threaten me like you did or for that matter close topics down that i made (The Gay character one.)

(4) - No...i will try not to be myself on here but i wont change in real life.

(5) - Fine. But this is the first time you have ever reminded me.

I just want to say that I am in complete agreeance with Sydney on this one. (1)Jacob has, as Sydney says, been breaking the rules every chance he gets. (2)I have politely warned you Jacob; "once too many times" has come and gone long ago. (3)You do not do anything productive. (4)What, may I ask, do you feel that you have to contribute to our community? (5)The entire basis of these forums is for the Oddworld fans to commune and share ideas, thoughts, and questions in a pleasant and productive manner. (6)You do none of that. I am somewhat of a silent eye... I work a lot behind the scenes. Though I do not appear to be around much, I know what goes on in just about every corner of these forums. (7)Jacob, you have overstepped your bounds too many a time. It was an absolute miracle that you were allowed back, and with that, (8)you could have at least had some respect for those who were kind enough to let you return. You have shown us no mercy, and we will gladly extend to you the same courtesy. No mercy for you.

(1) - You make it sound like i do it on purpose which i don't.

(2) - When have you warned me? (Thats a actual question, could you post a link please.)

(3) - Yes i do.

(4) - My ideas, and personality. Also...i make Stadikk look as if he has tact.

(5) - Ermmm...i can name one other member who doesn't do that.

(6) - Yes i do.

(7) - And like i said, it would help if Mods encouraged me by replying to my PM's of 'Would this be ok' i have only had one Mod do that and that was Sydney.

(8) - And you expect me to respect Sydney after that outburst over the most trivialistic thing. Pilot and Abe Babe i dont mind you two, and i didn't mind Sydney until he had his little outburst.

I'm really going to have to side with Sydney on this one. Although Sydney may have used some harsher language, (1)it's the only way to get his point across in this case.(2) As he says, there have been so many times where we've had to remind Jacob of the rules,(3) but then there are all the other times where we've just let it slip.

(4)This isn't about this single post, but it's about the accumulation of events since we let Jacob back on.(5) Admittedly he's improved in some areas,(6) but I guess old habits die hard. (7)I'm actually getting sick of reading posts where he's putting down others who do not appear to share his lifestyle or just simply being rude to others.

I want to see an end to this, and if not, I am going to support Sydney all the way with what would be a final banning.

(1) - No...you could of asked me nicely or PMed me.

(2) - Links please.

(3) - Please dont let it slip. I would like it to be pointed out to me if its not to much trouble.

(4) - I think i know what your on about.

(5) - Thankyou...one of the only Mods whose actually commented on my improvement.

(6) - Indeed. I try.

(7) - If thats the main thing i can tone it down.

(1)I have found Jacob rude from the very start when he last wangled himself back onto the forums as Un-Amused. (2)He shows nothing but contempt for anyone who does not completely agree with him.(3) He is not only not kind or polite to others but (4)will go out of his way to mock and ridicule other members.(5) He is constantly telling us what a complete peach he is in real life (6)while tearing down other members while he is on the forums.

(1) - Thankyou for your contribution. It is immensly helpful.

(2) - No i dont. Thats just going over the top.

(3) - I am kind and polite to others thankyou very much.

(4) - No i wont. If you actually look at some of the posts that get made on the forums that some might say...are rediculous. You will not see my comment anywhere.

(5) - Which is true.

(6) - I dont tear them down...i make snide comments.

(1)What's more amazing to me than his general nastiness is that when he gets in trouble, instead of throwing himself on the mercy of the court, (2)he arrogantly attempts to dictate how the forums should be run. (3)He's doing it now and he did it as Un-Amused.(4) I don't find Sydney's words harsh at all; (5)they are exactly what Jacob deserves.(6) And Jacob trying to suggest that someone else's conduct needs rethinking -- that someone else's words might be offensive -- is utterly laughable.

(1) - I'm not one for begging for Mercy.

(2) - No i dont, i suggest that a different tone of voice would be more helpful.

(3) - I did it as Un-Amused i admit...but i didn't do it this time. I commented on Sydney's approach to the situation.

(4) - You wouldn't.

(5) - You, especially would think that.

(6) - Yes...im sure everyone reading that comment are rolling around laughing immensly hard.

(1)I don't think an off-handed comment suggesting that it's all right to break the signature rules is something that should break the camel's back,(2) although that's completely Sydney's call,(3) but I think Jacob's complete unrepentance about it and trying to turn it into Sydney doing something wrong shows that he has no respect for anyone other than himself.(4) I would ban him for that.

(1) - Quite.

(2) - Indeed.

(3) - I never tried to turn it into Sydney doing something wrong. I admitted that i was wrong, but it was accidental. Sydney was out of order saying it in such a way. He is 18+ and should know better.

(4) - Yeh, it doesn't surprise me, really.

(1)Although all of the bad things you have said about Jacob are true (2)I still think Jacob has learned his lesson since the banning. (3)And I must disagree with Pilot, Jacob actual has conrtibuted to various topics in a completely serious, polite manner.(4) Although I don't like him I also don't think it is right to ban (again) for a simple slip up. (5)It must be incredibly hard for him not to be himself and the fact that he has been trying shows that he really wants to be a member of these forums.

(6)I hope I don't sound to much like I'm on his side... I'm NOT, I just don't think you should ban him for something little.

(1) - I am one to admit most of the things are true.

(2) - I have.

(3) - Indeed i have.

(4) - Thankyou, i know it must be hard for you to say that, lol.

(5) - Indeed.

(6) - lol

Conclusion;

In conclusion i agree with most of what has been said, however, i never attempted to blame Sydney for anything more than being harsher than needs be. There has been things i have been astonished by however, including the fact that the words "We have reminded you countless times." or something to that effect. I, literally, cannot remember when i have been reminded. Like i said before...links would be appreciated. But i do ask if i can say certain things...via PM.

If you disagree with any of this, please say. But dont ban me for taking the defensive.