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05-25-2002, 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Danny
Umm... I think you'll find that the vast majority of ordinary people (IE not pretentious playwrights) spoke English. And normal (for the time) English, too, not the twisted version Wobbledagger purveyed...
Yes, they did speak english. Excuse my generalization. Shakespeare was not the only playwriter. So let me clarify: Most people who had to do with writing back then made up new words. This developement had kicked off before Shakespeare wrote 'his' works.

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Sorry, I think you misunderstand me. I wasn't making an assumption, I was stating a fact...
Hardly. Sources?

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What I meant was that before Shakespeare, Theatre was not constrained into the same basic set of storylines... Before Shakespeare, plots were permitted to be imaginative, but for about three hundred years afterwards, they were forced to fit into the same clichés that he created... It's only recently that people have been able to break out of them...
Perhaps in england. I know for fact that in germany, for example, theatre play was a lot stricter with it's rules of how it was to be made in the beginnings and eventually broken up, NOT intensified over time again.

Besides, you make it look as if these plays have no value in themselves ("these plays" not only referring to Shakespeare's :P).

Oh! He created clichés? I thought he copied everyone's work. ;D *chuckle*

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As I said before, I not only think it can be entertaining and fun, but that it generally is. But anything has its off-days, and Shakespeare is definately Education's...
Well, if it soothes your mind, I don't like Goethe (german shakespeare if you so want), though not because of his works and apparent sins/wrongdoings, I think he was quite creative and all, I just don't like his views of the world that much, which made me lose interest in my german lessons ;)

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I don't dislike it out of opinion, I dislike it out of principle, because everybody now believes that that was how people spoke in those days, which is a total misconception...
Em. When did I say I thought they all spoke like that? I didn't. So if that's the only reason making you dislike it, it's the wrong reason to try and push in my face ;D


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