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The statistics show that the population has a skewed perception of the number of Muslims in the country. We can only speculate on the significance of this, but you cannot deny that there is a conspicuous rise in Europe of anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim opinion
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I don't deny that.
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and it’s very reasonable to suggest a connection between a growing public opinion and a skewed public perspective on the same demographic.
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I actually deny that part, though.
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It’s entirely plausible that Muslims would overestimate the Muslim population just the same as everyone else.
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Yeah, and that alone doesn't mean or imply anything, still.
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You’re missing the point, which is that the prison population cannot be used as a statistical sampling of the overall population. That goes for any country.
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Just when any of us said that, exactly?
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Let me give you an example of why this is: the French prison population is 3.3% female. Since presumably 96.7% of the prison population are men, we must therefore conclude based on the statistics that men in France are all horrible fiends who should be rounded up and deported immediately.
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Nobody said that. Neither about men, nor about Muslims.
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Can you see how this is a poor conclusion? Can you see how these statistics are not useful in examining the wider demographics of the country?
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I'm concerned about your double standard when it comes to judging statistics.
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7.5% is not nearly 10%, it’s a whole 1/4 off.
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That's pretty muh what "nearly" means. It means that it's not there, but a big majority is.
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Don’t try to exaggerate the numbers, plenty of people already think they’re higher than they actually are for some reason certainly not because people exaggerate them all the time.
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You might stop and look at yourself before you tell people they're exaggerating, it seems like a good moment to do it.
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The state does not control its people, but it governs them, and it is responsible for the wellbeing. Failures in education, housing, poverty and segregation/integration can and should be blamed on the state – that is all well within their remit.
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The state is not responsible for their wellbeing, silly. They're reponsible to give them a fair opportunity to earn it. Muslims are not denied education or work, the teachers don't go all "hurr durr you're not allowed to go to this school because you're Muslim". If anything, they do their best to allow that.
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No, I was replying to a point in isolation of the full conversation. I’ll throw you a bone, from what little of his opinions I’ve seen vlam sure seems like a conservative guy, but I don’t know enough to say whether he’d fit into the fascist group.
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Fair enough, we can both agree on that.