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No. That's plain dumb. That's a big overinterpretation. Also, if they asked a random, statistically reliable sample of people, that includes a lot of Muslims, too. After all, 7.5/100 of France's population are Muslims.
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The statistics show that the population has a skewed perception of the number of Muslims in the country. We can only speculate on the significance of this, but you cannot deny that there is a conspicuous rise in Europe of anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim opinion, and it’s very reasonable to suggest a connection between a growing public opinion and a skewed public perspective on the same demographic.
Also guess what: Muslims are just as susceptible to these ideas as the rest of the population! It’s entirely plausible that Muslims would overestimate the Muslim population just the same as everyone else.
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Says the guy calling people fascists when they disagree with you.
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The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loose group of people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in the United States in favor of white supremacy and white nationalism. White supremacist Richard B. Spencer coined the term in 2010, and considers the movement one about about white identity.[1][2][3][4] Spencer has repeatedly quoted from Nazi propaganda and spoken critically of the Jewish people,[4][5] although he has denied being a neo-Nazi; while there is no formal ideology for the alt-right, beliefs frequently overlap with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism, Islamophobia, antifeminism and homophobia, right-wing populism, nativism and xenophobia, traditionalism, and the neoreactionary movement. The concept has further been associated with multiple groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, far-right leaning men's rights advocates, and people who oppose mainstream conservatism. The concept gained attention during and after the 2016 presidential election for its alignment with President-elect Donald Trump's campaign.[6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
Spencer and his organization drew considerable media attention in the weeks following the 2016 presidential election, where, in response to his cry "Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!", a number of his supporters gave the Nazi salute similar to the Sieg Heil chant used at the Nazis' mass rallies. Spencer has defended their conduct, stating that the Nazi salute was given in a spirit of "irony and exuberance".[26] [27] Following the episode, the style guide of the Associated Press warned the "so-called 'alt-right' movement" is a label "currently embraced by some white supremacists and white nationalists ... It is not well known and the term may exist primarily as a public-relations device to make its supporters' actual beliefs less clear and more acceptable to a broader audience. In the past we have called such beliefs racist, neo-Nazi or white supremacist."[28]
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Did you read what I said?
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Yes and it wasn’t very good. You can’t both declare the guy who claimed it was a parody has no evidence to back up his claim and then declare you think it’s true anyway, that’s absurd.
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Germany has a similar prison population, same as Poland. Poland is a significantly smaller country, but Germany isn't. Don't tell me it's too small just because it's small compared to USA and big countries.
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You’re missing the point, which is that the prison population cannot be used as a statistical sampling of the overall population. That goes for any country.
Let me give you an example of why this is: the French prison population is
3.3% female. Since presumably 96.7% of the prison population are men, we must therefore conclude based on the statistics that men in France are all horrible fiends who should be rounded up and deported immediately.
Can you see how this is a poor conclusion? Can you see how these statistics are not useful in examining the wider demographics of the country?
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The article given provides little to no citiation to any of this, but rather express the author's opinion, which frankly means very little. |
http://www.economist.com/node/5135795
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/we...llow.html?_r=0
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opini...ticle27376738/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4375910.stm
http://lobelog.com/muslim-radicaliza...nd-resolution/
(pretty sure most of these fall within your cute diagram’s spheres of acceptability)
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Of course to you providing nearly 10% of the country's population a home and education is nothing, since it's a small percentage.
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7.5% is not nearly 10%, it’s a whole 1/4 off. Don’t try to exaggerate the numbers, plenty of people already think they’re higher than they actually are for some reason
certainly not because people exaggerate them all the time.
The state does not control its people, but it governs them, and it is responsible for the wellbeing. Failures in education, housing, poverty and segregation/integration can and should be blamed on the state – that is all well within their remit.
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Nep was replying to Sybil Ant, who asked Vlam whether he's 'alt-right'. Are you saying you've joined a conversation and didn't bother to even learn the context?
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No, I was replying to a point in isolation of the full conversation. I’ll throw you a bone, from what little of his opinions I’ve seen vlam sure seems like a conservative guy, but I don’t know enough to say whether he’d fit into the fascist group.