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11-22-2016, 06:54 AM
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Moving on from that, I'd like to put it to the forum that 'feminism' has a definition... feminism is simply the want and fight for equality between the sexes.
Language is abstract in and of itself. Feminism is also an abstract concept. Therefore, when putting these things together into a monster mash, working definitions and a definitional consensus is hard to come by.

The definition you suggested of feminism is very simple, and (as Varrock pointed out previously) not a working definition that I or many others would necessarily subscribe to. Gender and sex issues are highly complex and nuanced, and whilst at face value Occam's Razor seems intuitively right, I think we're really looking at a sort of Hickam's Dictum. Because of this complexity, different people will subscribe to different definitions, behaviours, and cognitions associated with feminism. Like most abstract things I guess it's very difficult to make all people use one definition.

Anyhoo. IMO Equality is not equity.

Regardless I believe that there is a need for equity between the sexes. From seemingly basic issues (at least they seem basic now) such as stopping discrimination against women when applying/retaining jobs based on pregnancy or offering men the same paternity rights as women's maternity. To more difficult challenges such as global equal education for both genders or breaking through that glass ceiling for women in high-powered management roles. I think that looking at the world and saying that there isn't an issue is, like the above definition of feminism, too simplistic and narrow in scope.

However, there are people, cultures, and societies who would disagree with me. That their gender norms or cognitions about what a woman (or a man) is should be all that the individual can achieve. So many people can (and do) feel that feminism is a bad thing or unnecessary.

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It's the same way the term, 'triggered' has been hijaked and normalised by the right
I feel like we also have to acknowledge the normalisation and minimisation of things like 'trigger warnings' by the left (I'm looking at you Tumblr). A decade ago trigger warnings were useful tools for people with mental health difficulties to allow them to safeguard themselves from potential distress. Now you can find trigger warnings about the ending of the Harry Potter series.

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Some people on the left often try to turn people's problems into a hierarchy
I like to call that Shitty Life Top Trumps.

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Lastly, nationalism. So, I noticed there does seem to be a support for nationalism, not across the board but I do think that it's mad in the 21st century that people are against the mixing of 'races' and the strengthening of borders.
You're describing discrimination based on simple in-group/out-group processes, surely?

TL;DR: Almost everything is super complex. Let's go get a beer.
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