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03-11-2016, 07:49 AM
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He hasn't gone through genital mutilation surgery, only the cosmetic surgery (at least according to wikipedia). Unless you mean cosmetic surgery, then ok.
I didn’t specify the type of surgery specifically because I didn’t know the extent of her surgery.


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Again, I'm not trying to demean anyone, but it was ridiculously convenient that this huge slice of sympathetic publicity came down on Jenner while s/he was facing manslaughter charges.

I know that the majority of people do not understand why trans people should be sympathized with (and I don't claim to comprehend what it's like to be trans), and please excuse me for going all Hollywood on this, but it's spin. Jenner is wealthy, attached to the valuable Kardashian brand and generally viewed well in the public eye. Vehicular manslaughter charges might mean less money for those brands he's attached to, so his publicist wrote up a 3 year plan to give him some sympathy.

It's absolutely not up to me to say who gets to be 'truly' trans or not, but he kept his Penis. In this particular instance, with all the mumbo jumbo about feeling like a 'whole new person', that is still a man with breasts and some facial reconstruction surgery. I don't buy it, but that's all. I understand why someone would feel more sympathetic towards Caitlyn Jenner than I do towards Bruce.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong; if this is genuine and she shows accountability for the murder-by-hummer, that's good! But my instincts tell me this is spin to appeal to public sympathy.
You don’t really get to say “it’s not up to me to say who gets to be 'truly' trans or not” and then deliberately misgender someone who has identified themselves as trans because you think they’re faking it, that’s kind of a blatant contradiction.

I’ve definitely got absolutely zero opinion about any of the Kardashians and I don’t really care if the manslaughter charges go through or not, if it’s a guilty verdict then she’ll go to jail and her being trans isn’t likely to change any court verdict. But I think that the idea that someone would change their identity in such a drastic, controversial and potentially dangerous (considering the vilification a lot of trans people receive) manner just as a publicity stunt is a very far-fetched idea, and if you seriously think it might hold merit then maybe you need to re-examine why you hold that opinion.

Also, there’s nothing to say that you can’t be trans and a shitty person. There’s plenty of people who would say Caitlyn Jenner is both – I’ve sen plenty of trans people criticizing her.
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