Don't get me wrong, I think manufactured music like that of Justin Bieber is shit. I still enjoy some of it for what it is though. I didn't say it was in the same ball park as anything that I believe takes talent to create, I just think it's all right shit music. Like a kebab after a piss up.
How do you even quantify what's good though? An example I'd use is "Cheer Up London" by Slaves. It's repetitive, basic and shouty, I still think it's a 'good' song though.
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Oh yeah, fair point. Maybe he was just tortured until he lost consciousness.
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