[Manco]

You spend a hell of a lot more time talking about the people “milking the system” and how it upsets you and how you think it’s not right

Actually, I've spent very little time talking about that at all.

Really?

I would say that the other side of it, the people paying the taxes that provide "jobseekers" with the money that they live off of, is closer to slave labor. They basically work a certain amount of days every week as your personal slave with absolutely no benefit to them for having done so. Can you not see how they would be fed up with that, and want to find a way to force you to do something that you find unpleasant for you to continue getting their money? This isn't magic money. It comes from people. This is other people's money.

This is how I feel about anyone who is on "the dole" using that money for anything besides surviving, or getting a job. You are stealing from me, and I would like it to fucking stop. I don't spend all day jerking off to the internet, or drinking myself into oblivion, doing the absolute minimum to scrape by. I work. That's my money that you're using to watch television with. That's my money that bought you that dvd. That's my money that you used for that book, or that internet connection, or that burger that you got from McDonalds. You are stealing from me, and every other person in your country, and someone should beat the dog shit out of you for it. That's my take on the situation.

This money is money paid to you by working people so that you can survive, and find employment. Anything beyond that is entitlement theft, in my opinion.

And yes, I don't think you've tried hard enough. I'm sorry. But I truly believe that if you put the energy into getting a job that you put into your entertainment pursuits that you would have one, and this conversation wouldn't be happening.

Edit: So forcing employers to pay wages that will put them out of business to people who have no discernible skills for jobs that take no discernible skills to perform is the answer? That seems unlikely. If the reason you aren't getting a job is because you don't think jobs pay well then you truly are scum, and the fact that you're still alive is proof that the system is broken.

I like how you present the idea of "anecdotal" as meaning that it doesn't apply. It does apply. These people exist. By the hundreds of thousands. And yes, I was outraged that I had to go without for someone who doesn't lift a finger to help themself.

I don't believe they approach the situation with the same effort that I do. I've seen hard times. I know what hard times look like. I don't begrudge anyone getting the help that they need, but I also understand that after a certain point, the help has to stop, and that person needs a bit of a harder shove in the right direction.

All of those people are not applying for the jobs. It would be foolish to think that they are.

Taxes pay for a lot of things, but those taxes still come from people. It's money that they earned. For people who are being taxed out the ass for work that they do, it gets difficult to watch people receive that money for doing nothing. And just as there are people genuinely looking for work, there are people genuinely happy to not have to work, and live off what the government gives them plus whatever they can get from people they know.

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And what help can I offer to people who don't use their resources responsibly or efficiently? Why should I care about that?

I’m not asking you to magically fix unemployment, I’m asking you to realize that a lot of the things you’ve been saying are common talking points used to demonize the unemployed and make it seem acceptable to enforce all kinds of draconian bullshit that ends up hurting more genuine people than “scroungers”.