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08-20-2013, 11:37 AM
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"Jacob, are you arguing that if you were in a serious accident that left you permanently mentally disabled, perfectly sentient and self-aware but unable to move or act normally, you'd think it best if you were killed and butchered?"
Erm, no-no. You misunderstand. I'm not talking about people who are aware. God, no. I'm not a monster, hahahahah!

However, to answer your question, and we never know just how we'd react in those instances but thinking about it from how I am now - yes, I would want to end my life and have my organs help people in need.

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"If you're unable to consider the emotional and moral side of things yourself, then consider the emotional effect on others"
This is my point, though. There is no solid argument against my stance. Just the emotional one.

Why lock people away in prison? Surely that is emotionally detrimental? Why support capitalism? Why have freedom of speech? I'm sure the right to offend upsets many. Why do many things that could be considered bad for someone emotionally?

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"If nothing else then consider the gratification gained from serving another human being, even one that can't help themselves."
If you want to help something that NEEDS you - get a dog. It'll give you much more affection. It also strikes me as incredibly selfish to keep something alive just to get a sense of personal gratification.

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"And there are medical benefits to loving another person and being loved by that person in return, even if said person is mentally disabled."
They can't love something they're not aware of.

I can't remember the program that made me realise my view, but it showed a woman with a severely mentally disabled kid. And she was placing with his face and he was reacting with smiles...and (I'm sure she said the following) said herself - "The doctors say he's just reacting to external stimulus - but I like to think it's more than that."

Oh.

Great(!)

Whilst we're giving emotions to inanimate items, how about - "My hat rack just loves it when I put my bowler on it." or "My knives really get a personal kick out of slicing lemons."

It just baffles me - this idea of emotion being put in front of the needs of people. So many people could be saved, but they won't be. Why? 'cos of some emotional attachment like that you'd get towards a childhood toy.

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"Hey, everybody it's Jacob. Bored now."
Feel free to ignore this thread, then. Jesus Christ. What are you, 5?

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"That's not the case of *every* mentally damaged person. Aside of that, sometimes you can't really tell that he's not aware, maybe he just can't communicate that."
I'm being fairly specific here, though. Obviously I don't want soldiers rounding up a bunch of autistic kids...though, I can see how that would be appealing for some kind of late night TV show.


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Someone on Twitter posed the argument that her brother inspired her dad to start up a charity and inspired her to work with people who need help mentally - and I recognise this argument.

They inspire people as well as helping medical research.

I approve of this counter argument.
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