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09-11-2012, 02:47 PM
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Oh, you absolutely are fear mongering. You start by making the problem sound more wide spread than it is. Acting like there are tens of thousands of people in each individual country that refuse to have their children or themselves vaccinated simply out of ignorance. And then you started trotting out doomsday scenarios. "The science is in!" What fucking science? The science that says that diseases are bad? Wow. Holy shit, genius. Diseases are bad. Who would of thunk of it. So let's replace a biological disease with a societal disease. Let's replace it with fascism. And don't give me your faggotry about how it doesn't make the policy fascist just because fascists would institute it. Okay, if fascists instituted a law stating that you can't set people on fire it would certainly not make the law a "fascist" law. But the law you want instituted is the kind of law that would only be instituted by a fascist state.

You are saying that personal freedom must be given up for the betterment of the state. We don't have the right to keep ourselves, or our children from receiving injections that may harm them because to do so would harm the biological health of the state. But why stop there? Why stop with biological health? The Jews are harming the economic health of the state by controlling all the banks, and driving us, the good indigenous people into financial ruin. This is what I'm told by some of our greatest minds, and most eloquent speakers. Let's purge them for the good of the state. Oh, and we as people need more land if we are going to thrive. Let's fucking take it.

Slippery slope arguments are bullshit, but what you are talking about skips the slope, and dives directly into authoritarian fascism. I won't have it. I'd rather get typhoid. I'd also rather you get typhoid.
Most of that doesn't even count as an argument, so I will ignore it.

Also, I'm inoculated.

I'm not interested in the "health of the state," I'm interested in the health of people. People people people people! You know, those entities that catch diseases, suffer and occasionally die? The state could not interest me less. I care about people. I want to save as many as possible.

The fact is that people aren't afraid of these diseases enough, so perhaps a little fear mongering is fucking well due. They are killers. Prior to vaccination they killed millions, and they are killing again. Fortunately medicine is better and the death rates are lower that they were. But one preventable death is too many.

The science I am talking about is the science of vaccination efficacy and immunity and the absolute necessity that as many people are vaccinated as medically possible. Tens of thousands of people not vaccinated? That is exactly right. If anything it is an underestimate.

Okay, I had thought that this was painfully obvious to everyone. I had thought that the frequency of which it shows up in the news would have made it common knowledge to everyone. That's on me.

Increase in preventable diseases linked to refused vaccinations.

More.

Vaccine-preventable diseases are on the rise.

Where we went wrong.

Childhood diseases making a comeback.

Whooping cough on the rise. This is the referenced paper

Graph of Pertussis cases in Washington 2011 compared to 2012 so far.

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