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On the foetus point, I like BM's idea that it is down to the woman. But there's still the debate you could have where the woman could terminate the baby until the umbilical cord is detached. I thin that for perhaps the last ten weeks before pregnancy or something, the baby is developed enough to be classed as a baby, not a foetus. That being said my understanding of birth and related human biology is limited and if someone can provide substantial evidence for or against I would take it on board.

On the inoculation subject, unless you have an allergic reaction to the drug, you should have to be vaccinated, you are putting yourself, your child and others that aren't vaccinated at risk. I think BM said earlier that diseases that were almost extinct 20 yeats ago are rampaging once again because the vaccinated population is decreasing or at least plateauing. That's just stupid for a first world country.