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I didn't see Thor or Captain America and somehow I was able to navigate the labrynthine plot of The Avengers with little to no problem.

On that note, let's talk about Ultimates. I wouldn't be surprised if Joe or Goest could corroborate/invalidate what I have to say on the matter, but I feel like sharing how outrageously fucking stupid this graphic novel was. The Avengers took a LOT of queues from this book, which itself was pretty much pieced together Marvel plots.

So Hulk talks. This is my most minor gripe, because Hulk has never NOT talked, but the way he talks is just bizarrely juvenile. Like, you can tell that whoever wrote it has some seriously repressed urges. First of all, he basically goes on a rampage for the purpose of raping Betty Ross and then later some other supers because Bruce Banner CANNOT handle being compared to Steve Buscemi. If I remember right, at one point Iron Man or Captain America gets the better of him in the ensuing showdown and says something like "How do ya like that, big guy!?" to which Hulk responds (paraphrasing over here) "TINY MAN JUST REMIND HULK HOW MUCH HE WANT TO FUCK BETTY!" and the frame is him smiling. I am very glad that didn't carry over to The Avengers.


There's been a subplot in Marvel of Antman/Giant man/Hank Pym beating women for years, but in this instance we have ONE presentation of Hank and The Wasp getting along just fine at home, nothing significant happens and then suddenly Hank is a total meanie and beats his wife and tries to make his ant henchmen devour her. It was just terrible. It's such a terrible comic book.