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out of curiosity how long did you guys have to wait before you could join the server?
I've sent a pm to Havoc and have been waiting for nearly two weeks and I still haven't been contacted about it 
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I haven't? Could have sworn I had, but I may be confused. In any case, I hadn't even seen you around this place yet, never read a post you had written so I don't feel particularly inclined to allow you on the server yet. Stick around and you'll be allowed on eventually.