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Originally posted by Doug
You and I just see things differently, Danny.
I don't like heated arguments, and it was stupid of me to post something that I knew would make you angry.  I hereby withdraw from all of this.
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I think you misinterpreted me there, Doug. I wasn't angry, I was just answering your question, or what I assumed your question was, anyway...
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Originally posted by Surfacing:
Why back out now? Or is what Danny said so true, that you can't not respond to it? You know just cause your American you do not have to always agree with your government.
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Bearing in mind that I was trying to have a civilised conversation with Doug, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't say things like this that are designed to get him on the defensive...
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Originally posted by Doug:
I think to respond would be pointless, as it's pretty clear that Danny has his mind made up about this issue.
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I'll give you a chance to say that this was not intended to be as patronising as it was before I get slightly irritated...
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In fact, I did respond, but I decided that I don't want to bicker about this, and changed my last post.
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Why would it be bickering? Just because we disagree, doesn't mean we can't have a civilised debate... (I am choosing to forget certain incidents with other forumers, as you seem more reasonable that them, Doug...)
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The biggest problem that I see is that we haven't really established what we are arguing about. I haven't really "agreed" with anything, and you've read more into my position with respect to this news item than is there.
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I'm not with him, okay, Doug? I've never seen him before in my life...
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I am completely against the tactical use of nuclear weapons; I am completely against the defensive use of nuclear weapons in response to a non-nuclear attack. I haven't thought through the appropriate response to being attacked with nuclear weapons, and I guess I'd prefer not to think about it. Possessing nuclear weapons is not something I'm happy about, but neither do I believe in unilateral disarmament.
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Honest question: Why not? If there were no Nuclear Weapons, there could be no Nuclear Attacks, and I think we all agree that that would be a good thing...
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I want to personally apologize to you for getting pissy with you, Surfacing. I come to the forums for the friendly banter and sense of community, and while I sometimes get drawn into these controversial topics, I never really feel good about it afterwards. I avoided this topic at first, knowing that joining in could lead to no good, but alas, I lost my self-control.
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Hey, don't avoid controversial topics! Just do as I do, and try to stay calm and rational. Come to think of it, I don't think you lost self-control at all in this topic... Not unless your standards for "self-control" are amazingly high...
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Anyway, thank you for understanding that I just don't want to talk about this anymore; perhaps we can pick up with another conversation in a more friendly manner.
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Why don't you want to talk about this? There's no need to get uncomfortable just because someone disagrees with you. Apart from anything else, I want to hear what you think on the issue(s)...