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02-25-2012, 10:35 AM
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I'm not complaining much about colors (the mockup's were more subdued though), more about the loss of freedom resizing/moving windows - I just don't want OS to decide for me which window placement is good (because its opinion is almost always an opposite of mine).
To an extent I agree – I’m skeptical of how it will work. But the Windows team have posted some really strong blogposts explaining how the UI works, and I’m optimistic. I really recommend going over these posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...tart-menu.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...rt-screen.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...rt-screen.aspx


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I don't want the tiled desktop too. The UI integration may look good at default apps, but I don't use them often and it's not hard for me to imagine developers wouldn't bother to update all their apps just for them matching Metro's strict rules (especially with multiple-OS-compatible apps).
I get the feeling most software developers will have the sense to make their software seamlessly integrate into Win8. Most Windows Phone app developers do it, and it really highlights how ugly the ones that don’t are.

But keep in mind that developers don’t have to use Metro style in their apps – the framework for building Win8 apps is based on the likes of HTML, CSS and Javascript, which have already proven themselves as versatile; and using Metro will likely not be a requirement for getting your app published on the app store.


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On non-metro windows I could install many customisation apps, I don't think metro will agree to any.
I’m pretty sure new ones will be developed, and existing ones will be updated to work with 8. Even now people have figured out a hack to disable the Metro Start screen.


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Is there any tray bar/system tray here? How will I use my internet messager then? Would I have to switch workspaces just to talk to somebody?
http://cybernetnews.com/windows-8-de...notifications/
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011...notifications/


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(Or use window stealing all desktop's height? I want a small square window at e.g. the center-bottom of the screen) The center of the screen is filled by apps/app icons, I want a freaking wallpaper herenormal wallpaper would also work for me lol.
The login/lock screen is where your wallpaper will go. This works extremely well for Windows Phone, and I believe it will work for Win8 as well. On top of that, you can change the Start screen’s background as well.

Keeping the tiles in the center is a good UI decision in my opinion; it keeps the user focused on them, and makes it easier to find tiles than in an unorganised mess all over the screen. Besides, I get the feeling that with the way tiles will work (fill with content, not just static graphics), a wallpaper would be superfluous.


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Windows was being developed for over 27 years. The technology came much forward and could be utilized for users to make really creative desktops. And yet the best MS idea so far is to enslave users "enslave" if they want to use new UI to their stupid design?
Users get “enslaved” to a UI design no matter the OS they choose; the only way to get around it is to hack in a new UI. This is the same for every single OS UI I can think of.


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PS: I noticed you have start bar at the top of your desktop, do you have problems with window titlebars appearing under that? I had those and annoyed me so I changed it back
The only programs I have which do that are games which are meant for fullscreen but are being run in windowed mode. For everything else, the taskbar automatically pushes titlebars out from under it if I try and move them there.
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