[Goresplatter]

You're taking this ridiculously personally MA. Got some personal projections into this? Are you on the dole yourself? What haven't I been answering in your debate?

The reason I mentioned my family, I think, was very clear. It shows that someone CAN get their own way out of that situation with good, hard, work. My family came from Yorkshire, from large families who weren't exactly well off. Now, why don't you tell me about your background?

The point about smoking / tattoos is that if you're so fucking tight on money on this handouts, why spend it on such expensive luxuries? Surely you should be rationing until you're better off? I lose pity for people who claim they're strapped for cash and then go buy expensive luxuries. Or maybe I'm missing some logic here, and those tattoos will help you get a job! Oh wait.

Same with the car. Why not just save some money for when you really do need it, when you're employed? I know exactly what I use it for, and I know that for many applications I could use a bus instead, if I was trying to save money.

I mentioned my job because, as made blindingly obvious by the quote I answered, it was suggested that it was easy for me to tell people to 'lower their standards' because I was unemployed myself.

And obviously I'm not generalising by one experience, I was giving an example. This sort of stuff happens all the time in my area, half the time I hear it outside my window. Like I said.

And obviously there must be people on the dole who don't act like this. It just seems like the majority, certainly most people I've come into contact with, fit the same unfortunate stereotype, and these are the people who are rioting. Why would I use the phrase 'dole-scum' as all encompassing when I've told everyone before in this thread that I have a couple of friends on the dole? Why would I be friends with someone who I think is a scumbag? Logic please.

Besides, I've answered everyone in this debate, that's why this thread is going on for so fucking long.

You're overly angry and you're lacking logic. Maybe you should go outside and riot! You'd fit in right with the crowd!