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I work at Halfords. It's not that much more dignified and I hate it, but it's still a job so I hold on to it. And I found it all by myself.

well done! that's a very grown-up thing to do, would you like a lollipop?

Hey, guess what? People who have jobs have to pay for all that stuff too, except the taxes are higher 'cause you have to pay for the ones who haven't.

really? people with jobs pay for all that stuff too? well holy shit, i didn't know! thank you for enlightening me, you oblivious fucking retard.

my point was that you can sit on your high horse for as long as you like, but the painfully obvious fact remains that we're all in the same boat. we all pay for these things, even those on the dole. you really are blinded by your own sense of superiority if you think for one nanosecond that people on the bottom rung of the social ladder have it easy. your mentality is ugly and nauseating. i'd rather see Nick Griffin as PM than someone as dangerously deluded as you.

I also have to maintain a car, and yes it is damned expensive, so don't think I don't know about these things. Beside the point, as the primary uses for my car are taking me to work and taking me to Uni. I don't get why someone unemployed needs a car so damned much in the first place.

are you fucking serious? why would they need a car? well, to actually stand a chance at getting a job in the first place would be one simple answer. a lot of jobs nowadays prefer their employees to have some form of transport, either because it's out of town, it's needed in the job, the job moves from area to area, whatever, therefore having a car is a big boost.

that's one reason, there are more, but i'm not gonna play the cunt and sit here typing up a list of uses for a car to someone who already owns a car, just so they can go through it and think "i do that...i do that too...boy, i didn't know they did all this stuff, because i'm employed and i do it too!". this is ridiculously basic stuff, i'm not your nanny and i'm not here to teach you these things. if you didn't know that people out of work may need use of a car, then for Christ's sake, why are you even in this thread? just because they have no job, doesn't mean they sit in stasis all day until they decide to go out and rob some old lady, you fucking moron.

And also, my dad got made redundant at the start of the recession, and in his mid 50s and with a little intuition, has found himself employment again, without even the use of jobseekers. He did this by learning, from scratch, how to program apps for the iPhone and iPad, and inquiring permission from a web developer if he'd like his database made into an application. He accepted and the app is a success, and brings in a nice bit of money. You can't tell me that's not determination.

hey, guess what? i couldn't give a flying fuck what daddy did. i don't know your situation because you won't let on, instead you just defend yourself with more anonymity, so i'm left stabbing in the dark. do you know why i say that? because every single situation is different. how the fuck can i judge whether what you're saying is even worth considering in this thread when all you've told us is the bare basics? but you know what? i don't want to know. i have no idea why you brought up your family history in the first place. if you want to prove something, prove it yourself, don't use somebody else and try to pass it off as a good example to set for others. you. what have you done that's so fucking awe-inspiring? what have you done that makes you think you have the right to be the next Judge Dredd? i'd like to hear it.

Hell, maybe I do sound conservative. Maybe I'm just sick of the fact that my family and I work pretty hard, and every day I hear of innocent people around my area getting robbed and stabbed to death by dole-scum.

hello Pauline Campbell-Jones.

Maybe I'm sick of seeing them spending their government money on fags and 'tricking out' their cars to look like shit, and having their bodies covered in tattoos - and it's exactly these kinds of people who are taking part in the riots.

haha, i smoke and have tattoos, but guess what? i wasn't rioting, and i have no intention to. do you still practice Phrenology or something? because that's how absurd you sound.

clearly you have no idea what you're blithering on about, but you'll carry on spouting this rancid pig swill because you'll never actually see sense due to your gloriously blinding ignorance. fucking pathetic, really.

And when some fucking waster crashes their car after driving like a dickhead, turns out to be uninsured, and the other poor sod gets fucked. I just don't think I've met more than one agreeable person on the dole - maybe it's the area in which I live.

people aren't nice, flower. people are complete wankers. get used to it, because obviously you're a very fragile person.

And even having seen this kind of poverty a lot personally, I think these people need to open their eyes and look elsewhere in the world, so they can see what true poverty really is, and how lucky they are.

"i have no roof over my head, but hey! at least i'm not in some scorching desert!"

not how it works. if that was how it worked, people would be a hell of a lot more content with what they've got. then again, it's easy for someone that isn't struggling to get by to say "be grateful for what you've got, because it could be a lot worse". real easy.

Nice one, tard. Looks like ad hominem isn't the best way to argue, surprise surprise.

isn't the best way to argue? what about not answering people in a debate? or totally ignoring valid points? or constantly saying "actually, you're wrong" whenever someone calls you out and then not backing it up with anything anyway? do they ring any bells, you fucking amnesic hypocrite?

Not every crime. Just most of the time. I bet criminals are more often unemployed than employed. I'd look it up but I can't be bothered, so if anyone wants to take that bet, feel free to find something.

do your research for you? fuck that, do it yourself. what are you, dole-scum or something?

Just so you know, by 'dole-scum' I mean it as 'a scumbag who happens to be on the dole', not as an all-encompassing term which includes perfectly respectable people who are just in unfortunate circumstances.

well i think you should have made that little bit more clearer from the beginning. or did you just slip up and that was your way of trying to make a half-decent recovery? i'm leaning towards the latter.

Not a cliche. I've been victim of an attempted mugging. It's not fun and doesn't give me a whole lot of respect for their plight.

oh my heart fucking bleeds. come back when you've grown some bollocks and realized that generalization due to one experience is like only walking uphill for the rest of your life because you were going downhill when it happened. so shortsighted it's incredible.